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December 10, 2008

So What?

I got a really interesting comment from Xan this morning on the McCardell Update I posted a while back:

First, it has been with great difficulty that I have found time to finally comment on this post.

A real travesty indeed-silk charmeuse sprayed with sizing for this Claire McCardell dress? Not only does it give me the willies, I bet the fine designer of the pattern is rolling over in her grave.

I have had the gut-wrenching experience time and again seeing sewing projects online over the last couple of years borne from people sewing something just to sew something rather than do it in a respectable if not correct manner.

Yours here is obviously such a project. I understand wanting to sew from one’s stash of fabric, but first to mutilate charmeuse with spray sizing and then to do so in order to ‘shoehorn’ it into a Claire McCardell dress pattern for which limp, draping fabrics were never meant, what’s the point? What happened to taste? Do you go anyplace wearing this dress? Is it usable as a garment?

Never mind the fact that the print was not matched along the centerline of the front as San Antonio Sue pointed out on Nov.13-it is simply awful.


As always, I totally support anyone's right to be appalled by what I wear, and to be vocal in their disapproval. De gustibus, and all that, but I did want to respond to this comment, and not just in the comment thread.

(First, I wanted to clarify one thing -- the silk was not sprayed with sizing, it was treated with Sullivan's Fabric Stabilizer Spray, which is washed out before wearing. The Sullivan's makes the fabric easier to cut and sew, but doesn't affect the fabric's "hand" after washing.)

This is the part I really wanted to respond to:

I have had the gut-wrenching experience time and again seeing sewing projects online over the last couple of years borne from people sewing something just to sew something rather than do it in a respectable if not correct manner.


It is the fear of encountering this snobby attitude that I think keeps so many people from sewing, and I think that's such a shame. Yeah, that dress was not the best I ever made, but -- so what? I did wear the dress (to a wedding) and I got some nice compliments on it (from people who didn't know I made it, btw).

More importantly, I learned something from making that dress. It was an experiment. It was an exploration. You learn a lot more from trying something new than from doing everything in the "respectable if not correct" way.

I'm not saying "throw all the rules out the window!" (I wouldn't have made that dress out of plastic grocery bags or polyester double-knit) but I'd rather live my life trying new things (which are not always guaranteed to work) than making sure I only did exactly what's been done before, what's "respectable and correct," and nothing else. If you're only going to follow a recipe, why not invest in a few paint-by-number kits? (This is why I always ignore those "Copy Ready-To-Wear!" articles in sewing magazines. If I wanted "ready-to-wear", I'd BUY "ready-to-wear," people.)

It's the garments I make from weird fabrics, in fact, that have made me the happiest. Camouflage and stripey skirts, and curtain-fabric dresses, and on and on.

But, really -- "gut-wrenching"? If seeing other people's not-quite-right (by your standards) efforts gives you actual intestinal pain, you might want to take some deep breaths and repeat "This isn't my problem" until it goes away.

The designer of the pattern, Claire McCardell, was herself an innovator. She pioneered ballet slippers as shoes, which would have been neither respectable nor correct in some people's eyes when she first did it -- but she didn't let that stop her.

If you're just starting to learn to sew, and you're worried about attitudes like Xan's, think for a minute about what you want more: Making something that's "perfect" by someone else's standards? Or the experience and pleasure of planning, sewing, and ultimately wearing something that's a reflection of you, and not the equivalent of packaged cake mix? I know what my answer is.

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144 Comments:

  • At Dec 10, 2008 9:59:00 AM, Blogger vakessen said…

    Thanks for posting your response to the comment where we couldn't miss it. I learn so much from your blog and this response is full of the encouragement I need. Now, I think I need to go sew!
    Virginia
    By the way - I love the dress in question.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:11:00 AM, Blogger Jen said…

    Didn't we explore the learning process in your previous post on Nov. 16 titled "10,000 hours"?
    We'll all get it right if we just get it wrong enough times.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:19:00 AM, Blogger Marjie said…

    Yeah, I color outside the lines, too, and never use boxed cake mix unless I'm about half dead and someone's threatening to shoot me if dessert doesn't appear. So, I guess that commenter has the right to her opinions, but, as my Granddad said, opinions are like (select a gross body part): everyone has one. I like that you try different things, too! It gives us all more courage.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:20:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    One of the things I have learned from reading sewing blogs such as yours is to try something new, something scary. I have accomplished much more this year in sewing because I have dared to try. Your attitude has kept me from being terribly discouraged as in the old days. If something does not turn out right for me I donate it so someone can enjoy it, and then I sew something else.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:22:00 AM, Blogger Marty's Little Corner said…

    Erin, I totally agree with you. The reason I sew is because I want to be unique and not a copy cat of what's on the runways. If there are any really "true" rules of sewing, I have probably broken every one of them at some time or another. It was years before I learned about grainlines and bias. I just would lay out a pattern based on instinct and what my gut told me was right. In my tailoring class back in 1976 (yeah, I'm old) I learned about grainlines, drape of fabric, bias, padstitching, etc. Until then, I was clueless even though I took home ec in jr & sr high school. I could out sew the teacher so she just let me do my own thing. We didn't have text books filled with rules. Sewing is supposed to be fun and rewarding. When you take away the fun of exploration, it becomes a boring chore. So, go have fun today and sew something special for yourself!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:25:00 AM, Anonymous simbelmyne said…

    Your post has made me go back to my pile of things I'm not happy with to see what I can do to fix them (or if my opinion has changed). Sewing isn't brain surgery-if something doesn't work out, oh well. Thanks for posting this.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:26:00 AM, Blogger Alli said…

    How dull life would be if all we worried about was doing things the "respectable and correct" way! Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but this post made me extremely thankful that I was born with a mind that appreciates creativity both in myself and in those around me.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:29:00 AM, Blogger Dalila said…

    I think that dress looks great!
    And silk can be annoying to sew with, it can be so slippery! The stabilizer sounds like a great idea. I don't love hand sewing (and I don't like basting at all) so it sounded like a great technique to try to me.
    Trying new things is great - not all of the things I make turn out, but I made them and learned from them...
    It seems like this person has nothing positive to say although at least they are coherent. I'm just not sure what positiveness we can get out of this type of comment (besides discussion)! It is really quite cutting. Sigh.
    I like the dress and I don't think you should be at all ashamed about wearing it!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:30:00 AM, Blogger Little Hunting Creek said…

    Wow, I am flabbergasted. My mom would say to Xan, "who made you Queen of the World?" I wonder what this self-crowned arbiter of all that is correct in sewing would say about the tablecloth jacket that I made in high school (it was awesome), or the top I made out of Christmas ornament fabric (also fun). There are no rules in sewing and just as there is more than one way to cook a recipe, or paint a portrait, there are many ways to sew something, and since the sewist is the artist, ALL of the choices are correct.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:32:00 AM, Anonymous Kathyg said…

    Well,this blogger certainly doesn't know much about design history...if Chanel hadn't thought outside the box we'd all still be wearing corsets. Now, I have worn corsets, by choice, and enjoyed the experience, but a daily diet of such would not be a pleasant experience. Bravo to any of us sewers who takes the chance of using alternate choices in fabrics, trim, etc...individuality is a virtue, in my very humble opinion.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:33:00 AM, Anonymous Sara Catterall said…

    Erin, one of the things I love about your blog is that you are not a professional, you're an individual following her own tastes and interests (obviously legion).

    But this is someone who finds sewing that doesn't please her, 'gut-wrenching'. Obviously not a standard perspective. Oh noes, indeed.

    My mother curates a significant costume collection and despite being able to handle real Schiaparellis and use them as teaching models, keeps encouraging me to take sewing shortcuts (more than I like to) because 'no-one will ever notice'... it's a big world, we all have our priorities.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:35:00 AM, Blogger Knitika said…

    Sew on, sister!

    It would be such a shame to refrain from sewing--or any crafting--simply because the outcome might not conform to some snob's definition of respectable and correct. Like you and other commenters have said, How can you get anywhere if you aren't always trying, experimenting, and doing?

    What a joy to wear an appropriate and lovely handmade dress to a wedding, and to receive compliments on the dress.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:41:00 AM, Blogger Kristen said…

    I just got "things i wish my mother had told me" in the mail and am reminded of a quote that you actually put on your blog when you recommended the book:

    only small people get offended.

    don't be afraid to wear/sew/make something because you think someone else won't like it. If it's fun for you, and makes you happy, then do it! The snobbery of strangers should not affect what you do with your day. Or your fabric.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:43:00 AM, OpenID sewducky said…

    I find the only travesty here is that Xan's opinions were shared in a rude way.

    It doesn't matter if I like the dress, and it doesn't matter if I would wear it. Erin obviously does, and SHE is the one that should be happy with it.

    Xan reminds me of the old women in the sewing shops that have to brag their machines cost more then my car and are utterly appalled when I reply that I sew on my 1927 Singer 66 treadle. I like my machine, and if I wanted a newer one I'd get one.

    I was taught the "correct" way to sew was to make sure it didn't fall off of you when you wore it and "respectable" meant nothing was showing that shouldn't be, or wearing night clothes or undergarments as outerwear (my mom's old fashioned, what can I say?). The rest is technique and even there, so much depends on which source you read.

    What happened to "if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all"?

    Xan will not be getting my patronage. It is not that I am siding with Erin, or that I don't believe Xan should not have an opinion, but the fact is it could have been said with less superiority and been nice about it

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:45:00 AM, Blogger MRegnar said…

    Erin-
    Words fail me....
    You are sublime.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:49:00 AM, Blogger Kelly said…

    One of the reasons I am drawn to sewing and drawn to writing are the similarities found in these two creative processes. Just as there is no one writing process, no one way of approaching a writing process, there is no one way to approach a sewing project. I am lucky that I get to switch in and out of socially constructed rules in both writing and sewing through understanding in both processes of purpose and audience. I write for fun and I write for money. I sew for fun and for clothing myself. I can stretch my mind and my work.

    Hurray for finding your way! How wonderful is it that the author has the confidence to share the right way and the wrong way of reaching creative satisfaction. Too bad these processes don't apply to all of us - then, we could all be happily boorish.

    Seems to me, there are far more important things to criticize on the web than a supportive sharing group of creative sewers who like to sew out of their decade and out of their comfort zones.

    www.deniablydomestic.blogspot.com

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:52:00 AM, Blogger Tracy said…

    Huh, all that snottiness after you sent your readers to here place of business. Astonishing.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 11:10:00 AM, Anonymous Ashley said…

    Amen, sister! The dresses I make and wear are probably pretty appalling to a lot of people, and sometimes I stop and worry about that. But then I remember how much fun I have making and wearing these things, and how they're a reflection of me and not a cookie-cutter piece out of a factory, and I remember your blog, and that worry disintegrates.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 11:14:00 AM, Anonymous xstpenguin said…

    I'm a perfectionist, I like rules, I like following instructions. Main reason... I'm afraid of 'ruining' things and if I follow someone else's instructions and do exactly what they tell me and it is still a disaster I can pass the buck!

    I admire your courage, spirit and joy in things Erin, that's why I come here. Sometimes you rant against something and I nod in agreement, sometimes I don't, but your opinions are always so beautifully expressed and respectful of the existence of other viewpoints that I ALWAYS find them worth reading.

    There is a 'right' way of sewing, but that isn't the end, it's the jumping off point for creativity. Long live stunt dresses from curtain fabric!!

    I do disagree about the copy-RTW articles though - they are aimed at people who want RTW but don't fit into the manufacturers' standard body shape and are therefore quite useful to them.

    There are a great many ugly things in the world. Gut-wrenching being a good word for them, but really, spending one's precious time classifying others' sewing projects as such? My reaction on seeing (on a blog) someone's homemade cover for an IKEA chair was 'Man, that's ugly!' but it never even occurred to me to look for the comment button and say so! The content of her post was how happy it made her to see this chair in it's cover. Why knock happiness?

    Cheers,
    AJ

    PS whenever commenting here, I always worry about my apostrophies, but I guess you'd rather hear my thoughts than have me keep quiet for fear of making a mistake!?

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 11:14:00 AM, Blogger Gabriella said…

    Thanks so much for this post Erin. I am probably the worst sewist in the world - self taught, impatient, frequently clueless about basic construction. I live in fear of "real" fabric artists seeing the horrible job I've done on most of my projects...but I love my projects anwyay. Its all a wonderful learning experience. The time spent planning, cutting, stitching, and even ripping apart and starting over is the best time of my life. It important to be reminded every now and then that its perfectly alright to enjoy the act of creating even if the result is not "correct" in some people's eyes.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 11:17:00 AM, Blogger L said…

    HA HA HA!! You poor thing.... How insane is it to stalk someone's blog and have so little time on your hands to leave a comment such as Xan's... Seriously... I've been sewing for over 20 years (and I'm 31.. btw) and have started my 6 year old sewing... the point of trying new ideas is let imperfections help you learn and grow... if you criticize someone on those, they will either give up or get mad... I'm usually the latter.. HA! Keep your chin up, girlie. I love reading your blog and I wish I were as brave as you to "put yourself out there"... in fact, I just used you as an example to my husband last weekend... that I wished I was brave enough to sew my own clothing and take chance with bold, fun prints and styles. More power to you!!! You are truly my hero. Even if your roses aren't matched perfectly. HA HA!! (btw.. I had to go back and check out the dress, because I didn't remember that at all... ) OH... and I so rarely look at the back to see the "recommended fabrics"... I was raised to think outside the box... and the envelope backing. HA! HUGS!!!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 11:24:00 AM, Blogger LibrariAnon said…

    Rock on, Erin and all of the commenters not afraid to have fun with sewing!

    Playing and fighting with a project is often the best part. Changing things up and doing something different when you encounter a problem, or starting out with the intent to do something new, is what makes sewing (or any other project) fun, interesting, and challenging.

    Breaking the rules is what fashion is all about!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 11:34:00 AM, Blogger paisleyapron said…

    Having just made a blouse with silk and cursed my way through its slipperiness, I would have LOVED to have had it stabilized first.

    Thanks for your reply to the sewing police comment. I have sewed my own clothes for more than 24 years (and I'm in my thirties) I honestly believe that there is no wrong way to do things. The end result justifies the means and if the end result pleases, so be it.

    Keep on, Erin, you are an inspiration, to say the least.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 11:39:00 AM, Blogger *Sandra* said…

    I wasn't really struck with the dress either, but I wouldn't have been so rude as to say so in such emotive terms. And anyway, I figured it probably looked a lot nicer 'on.' Any chance of seeing what the dress looks like with you inside it, Erin?

    BTW, Ms. Xandra has a lengthy list of 'Favorite Blogs' on her own blog, and doesn't even mention A Dress A Day. How can we give any credence at all to her opinions!?

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 11:45:00 AM, Anonymous Ms. P and C said…

    Hi Erin...
    I've been writing a blog for 2 1/2 years, and every once and a while this type of comment comes up.

    While initially my Irish temper goes haywire, if I give it some breathing room for a few hours I find that this kind of smack-down commentary had nothing whatever to do with me. If the naysayers were as brave, creative, and experimental as those who were publishing their efforts, then I'd actually give them some consideration. Overall though, they're just giving cheap shots.

    Keep experimenting, innovating, publishing, creating, and being brave! That's what it's all about!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 11:49:00 AM, Blogger Myra said…

    I, like many of you, am a self-taught sewer. I love making garments and quilt-tops. I do try to follow instructions unless it sounds ludicrous, then I ask my mom or research a better and easier solution. Some of my things pass my mom's scrutiny, some do not, mostly in the way of fit. Do I take it to heart? Not really. They are all learning experiences. If I like it and my kids wear what I make them, so be it. Sewing is a creative process, rules can be broken once you know the basics. I think Erin's dress was pretty, I personally would have cut that bodice on the fold, though, because I hate center seams in the front. But I see many things on the internet that I am, wow, I would never wear that, or still needs something. It's not my problem. I have many other things in my life to worry about. Too bad the tone from Xan was so haughty, after Erin was gracious enough to plug her new pattern.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 12:20:00 PM, Anonymous La BellaDonna said…

    Oh, for crying out loud, Xan, go wrench your delicate gut somewhere else. McCardell got a raft of grief when she first started using denim and ticking for - Oh, the Shame! The Horror! - EVENING WEAR. Yup, formal clothes in informal fabrics. I'll bet a few delicate guts wrenched over that, too.

    If you're that delicate, you're too delicate to be roaming Teh Innernets unsupervised. Don't like what you see? Click a switch. I'm with Erin regarding people who are afraid to try because they're afraid they'll fail. The guy who developed Federal Express is a many-times millionaire; he went bankrupt TWICE from his two previous failures.

    And for what it's worth, I have ALWAYS recommended spray starch, liberally applied to slippery (but washable) fabrics before they're stitched - sometimes before they're cut. Makes working with many of them much, much easier.

    Go panic somewhere else, you poor delicate thing, you.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 12:21:00 PM, OpenID kmcfatridge said…

    Aside from a "How to run a sewing machine" class when I was 11 I've been making things up as I go. I don't want to get weighed down with strict rules and convention. Sewing wouldn't be fun anymore! If I'm still enjoying it after having done it (minus lots of rules) for well over half my life than I think I'm doing something right. If we all followed the rules we'd get no where in the way of innovation. Where is the joy in that?

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 12:23:00 PM, Anonymous kb said…

    Hi, Erin--
    I try (and often fail) to live by the maxim "always err on the side of magnanimity." You are a great example of that here, when you reply to these kill-joys.

    I love dressaday and have learned so much from it; I appreciate so much what you share with us, especially your exuberance. I will leave "what is correct" to the kill-joys.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 12:25:00 PM, Anonymous Lady Be Good said…

    Wow... I can't, and frankly don't want to, imagine what it must be like to live with such a rigid and judgmental point of view. The funny thing is that she is so off base with her criticism! If she finds using a slightly lighter than suggested fabric and an often recommended home sewing technique (ie: using stabilizer) 'gut wrenching,' then I'm glad you didn't do anything seriously 'wrong' or she may have had an actual aneurism! I absolutely agree that the reason I sew is to do it my way, and because I enjoy doing things myself. And that's the real key... sewing, or whatever craft you choose to immerse yourself in, is about personal enjoyment and personal satisfaction, and not living up to anyone else's expectations. I admit that there's a lot of stuff out there that I find either unattractive or poorly done, but I always smile at the pride and joy that a person shows when exhibiting their creation, because that is a feeling that I know, cherish and strive for.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 12:25:00 PM, Blogger CJ said…

    It's this kind of attitude that makes people scared to cut into that beautiful fabric or sew that vintage pattern- "I couldn't do it justice, I'll ruin it". I always try to remember that patterns and fabric are inanimate objects that don't feel bad if I ruin them, and they don't get very pretty left in the drawer either.

    I love seeing people's "failures" and less than perfect work because it makes me feel better about that wadder I just made and maybe I can learn from their mistakes or experiments!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 12:27:00 PM, Blogger Jonquil said…

    Hooray. I sew for my own pleasure; sometimes the things I create give pleasure to others, sometimes not. I am not submitting them as the true Platonic document; I'm just not that good. My wall quilt has crooked seams. Nearly every week somebody walks by my cubicle and tells me how beautiful it is. It's purple and lavender and blue and it makes me (and a lot of other people) happy.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 12:36:00 PM, Anonymous La BellaDonna said…

    Let us all brace ourselves for the snotty reminder that "sizing" can refer to ANY chemical preparation, starch, wax, etc., added to a fabric to improve its hand - OR its ability to be handled. In theory and practice, this includes spray starch and spray-on stabilizers, AND anything the manufacturer does to the fabric before it hits the store that can be washed out. That said? I loves me sizing, I does. People who don't like it are under no obligation to use it; it's still a free world, and I'm glad of it.

    Let me give you ladies (and the occasional gentlemen) an illustration: for years and years and YEARS, I've hoarded fabrics. Time and other consideration kept much of the hoard from being used, but I always knew I'd use it someday. Well, someday came, and I took the fabric out of storage - and it was ruined. The landlord lied about the storage conditions, and thousands and THOUSANDS of dollars' worth of utterly irreplaceable fabric was ruined, with not a pennysworth of compensation. What could ANY of you POSSIBLY do to your fabric that would be THAT BAD??? HAVE THE FUN OF RUINING IT!!! Yeesh, if you're that scared, make a bunch of pillows out of it and at least have the pleasure of sitting on it! Once the cat sits on it or throws up on it, it won't look so fearful. Line something with it, make a hat of it, make an apron, make lingerie if your bigger project was spoiled. Make a drawstring evening bag, make a picture frame, make a pincushion - you can always make SOMETHING ELSE out of it.

    Don't let fear rule your lives.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 12:37:00 PM, OpenID polianarchy said…

    What a timely blog post! I was just having a similar discussion last night with two of my friends -- one a fashion designer, the other a graduate student in textiles. Both are dear friends, but I am SO TIRED of hearing "advice" from these experts. I've been sewing for less than a year, and yes, I'm aware that my skill is lacking, I know nothing, and I'm making mistakes constantly. For crying out loud, LET ME LEARN! I learn much more from my mistakes than from the so-called experts tut-tutting my work and slapping my hand. And WTF is wrong with sewing just to sew? Art is a pleasurable process, in and of itself. Besides...perfection is for boring people.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 12:42:00 PM, Blogger Angel said…

    I'm not put off by Xan's comment. I'm more concerned about my Home Ec teacher coming back to berate me after breaking my promise to never touch a sewing machine again in return for her passing me in that portion of the class.

    I've been reading this blog for a number of years and I've finally decided that I'm going to invest in a sewing machine. And plastic goggles. And chainmail gloves.

    I live a few blocks away from a hospital and always keep a good supply of gauze stocked. I don't want to make it *too* easy for fate. She's a stealthy and patient witch.

    As I said, Xan and the attitude of all-knowing-of-everything-sewing doesn't horrify me. Or put me off. I just won't make Xan a dress.

    I can only assume I will do it wrong anyway ;)

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 12:44:00 PM, OpenID pivyca said…

    >"I have had the gut-wrenching experience time and again seeing sewing projects online over the last couple of years borne from people sewing something just to sew something rather than do it in a respectable if not correct manner."

    I don't get it--what's wrong with sewing just to sew something? Sometimes we run because we enjoy it, not because we want to get fit. Sometimes we read for entertainment, not becuase we want to learn. Sometimes we bake to see how it turns out, not becuase we are hungry. I don't see how sewing is any different.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 12:49:00 PM, Anonymous dwj said…

    I recently got back into sewing this year and sometimes you just want to sew something to see how it works. To try something new! Those comments would've upset me too but it's not about doing it to someone's specifications. To me sewing is about being creative, expressing myself and doing something I love!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 12:51:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    To sum up: Being a snarky bitch won't get you anywhere.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 12:52:00 PM, Blogger wundermary said…

    I can't imagine what was so incredibly difficult to overcome in order to leave that comment. I always think it is bizarre when people cast themselves as a martyr over something as simple as an elective response. To a blog. By a person they do not know.

    That aside, I don't think I commented on the dress, myself. Frankly, I didn't care for your fabric choice and I didn't understand why you wouldn't have chosen something that would have shown the design to good effect, rather than obscured it. If you wanted to sew so badly with that piece of fabric, a better pattern could have been selected.

    There are rules and one should learn them before breaking them. It is the best way to build your skill and knowledge. I loved the post about 10,000 hours. But, it is entirely possible to sew for years and never learn much of anything, if you do not apply yourself.

    I didn't much care for Xan's delivery, but my opinion lies somewhere between the two of you. Xan could stand to loosen up and you could slow down and do a better job. That's my two cents.

    I don't think I'll be seeking out Xan anytime soon, but I will be continuing to read this blog. Your "mistakes" aren't even close to what it is really about. I can't imagine Xan being all that much fun, but I'd hang with you in a heartbeat; imperfect clothes and all.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 1:02:00 PM, Blogger catspec said…

    Gosh - is this a member of THE FASHION POLICE here? She has every right to her opinion, but it is just plain boring to comment in this way on someone's dresses, or anything else. Whom was it (my Mom?) who taught me "the less said the better?" A rule which Xan should have applied here, and spared herself all these comments. ;) Goodness, sew whatever you like and keep 'em coming! Sewing isn't a religion! :)

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 1:07:00 PM, Blogger Adelaide B said…

    I kind of like it when people are rude or honest in comments because it is nice when people really express what they feel. This was on the mean side however, especially the "simply awful comment." What I don't get is why a small business owner would risk alienating so many people by being nasty. I'm not gonna buy from her now; nothing I make could ever possibly live up to her standards. It makes me sad because she has cool stuff, but I'm sure I'm not the kind of customer she wants.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 1:08:00 PM, Anonymous La BellaDonna said…

    Oh, I found a fabulous piece of advice in Miss Leslie's book, which could SO EASILY apply to Visiting Blogs That Offend One:

    Excuse yourself from accepting invitations from persons whom you do not like, and whose dispositions, habits, feelings, and opinions are in most things the reverse of your own. There can be no pleasure in daily and familiar intercourse where there is no congeniality. Such visits never end well; and they sometimes produce irreconcilable quarrels, or at least a lasting and ill-concealed coolness. Though for years you may have always met on decent terms, you may become positive enemies from living a short time under the same roof; and there is something dishonourable in laying yourself under obligations and receiving civilities from persons whom you secretly dislike, and in whose society you can have little or no enjoyment.

    I think Miss Leslie has covered it, don't you? If you're cast into agonies by Erin's sewing choices, tastes, abilities, posts, whatever, there ARE other options.

    Angel, I think the goggles at least are an EXCELLENT idea - and so is hydrogen peroxide to blot those bloodstains. Ahem. I don't necessarily advocate the gloves, because I find, at least, that I require a tremendous degree of hand flexibility when I work, and gloves would make it difficult. But I've had broken machine needles fly into my face, so the eye protection is a Really Good Idea, IMO. You seem otherwise prepared!

    For what it's worth, Erin's sewing choices aren't always mine, either - nor would I expect mine to be hers. That's because Erin is Erin, and I am not; I am myself. There's room in the world for vanilla AND for butterscotch pizza ripple - sometimes on the same cone. You don't hear the flavours at Baskin Robbins castigate each other for being different, do you?

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 1:10:00 PM, Blogger Lydia said…

    Oh good heavens.

    "Gut-wrenching?" Really? Somebody needs to take a long look at the state of humanity (and inhumanity) in the world around him/her. Puh-leeze.

    Thanks to a crazy schedule and a nightmare pit of a sewing room, I haven't sewn anything in months. Sewing something just to sew something sounds like heaven.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 1:10:00 PM, Anonymous La BellaDonna said…

    Oh, HELLS. XAN IS EVADRESS????

    I. AM. SO. BUMMED.

    And I'm SO disappointed.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 1:17:00 PM, Blogger Sharon said…

    Hi Erin, I love looking at your dresses. i have been sewing since I was 8 and that means nearly 50 years. I make mistakes and the seam ripper is my best friend. I enjoy trying new things. I think that sewing gives me the opportunity to be creative-I don't listen to rules much, anyway. I often sew for theaters and have a great time making historic costumes for them. I make them on the machine, even though, to be "correct" I should sew them by hand. I am sure that Xan would really dislike me, and the crazy things I make and proudly wear. Oh well, so sad and way too bad. May Santa bring her a lump of coal for her behavior and snarky attitude. (I wonder how many freinds she really has!)

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 1:25:00 PM, Anonymous mickey said…

    I am at a loss for words. We sewists share with each other, I thought, to build us up. Not tear down thoughtlessly. I can only hope that Xan meant her comments to be helpful and now may realize and learn how not to critique.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 1:27:00 PM, Anonymous Daedala said…

    Well.

    That makes it a lot easier to resist buying from EvaDress ever again.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 1:41:00 PM, Anonymous La BellaDonna said…

    I am SO disturbed, and SO DISTRESSED. I have dealt with Xan at Evadress, and have found her unfailingly helpful and COURTEOUS, going out of her way to assist me and provide help that I needed, at no additional cost to me nor profit to her. She was professional! She was kind! I recommended her to EVERYONE I COULD THINK OF - Erin included! - because I was so happy and so impressed! I'm beside myself, honestly. This isn't like being thrown out of my dojo for standing up for a friend (which, yes, happened); do I not patronize someone who gave me superlative service, because she said something (free speech!) with which I disagreed, specifically in the manner in which it was said? How is it that a businesswoman writes such a thing? Do I assume that Xan, like Kathleen (love you, Kathleen! Going to buy the new book and CD!) Fasanella, has some form of Asperger's? Kathleen has also a posted a few pithy things with which I disagreed, but I didn't say "and I'll never buy from you again!!" No, I still tell people to go read fasion-incubator.com.

    I'm at a loss for words. A very lengthy loss for words, apparently. God help me, I've certainly written and/or said stupid things in my life; do I file this under Stupid, and let it go?

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 1:41:00 PM, Blogger geogrrl said…

    To paraphrase Dorothy Cannell, Xan sounds like a woman who has douched once too often with vinegar.

    I mean, really....

    I'm a perfectionist. At the same time, I see nothing wrong with experimentation. Yes, not everything works, but you learn as much from your mistakes as from your successes. And you might discover something wonderful in the process.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 1:47:00 PM, Blogger Karen said…

    I sewed just to sew for years - it's only in the past few years that I've sewn to actually WEAR the stuff. The process and figuring out the puzzles was enough for me, I just finally got tired of making all those clothes and not having anything to wear. But I got just as much pleasure out of sewing "just to sew something" as making some meaningful, perfect project that wouldn't wrench someone's gut.

    I support anyone's right to make anything they want out of any fabric they want, using any technique they want. I don't have to like it; I don't have to wear it; I don't have to use their techniques, fabrics or sewing machines. I also might like it, and learn something from what they've done.

    All that being said, I liked your dress. I didn't love it as much as some (I have a big weakness for Liberty, so you know what ones I fall for), but even if I hadn't liked it I would have kept my mouth politely shut - didn't Xan's mother ever tell her "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all?" - and waited for your next fabulous dress.

    Fear of judgments and comments like that would definitely affect a beginner (or less secure) sewer. Bravo for being able to take the hit and show everyone that you're better. Keep sewing.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 2:03:00 PM, Blogger Erin said…

    Hey folks, I just wanted to say that it's fine to disagree with what someone says (I do it all the time), but I'd rather not see comments that are ad hominem (or ad feminam, in this case). Okay?

    Good: "What you said stinks!"
    Bad: "You stink!"

    Got it?

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 2:06:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Well, I AM making dresses out of plastic grocery bags. Perefctly chic and very wearable, I want to add! I sew also, and pretty well.
    Variety and differences absolutely make our world better.
    Shaun Muscolo
    Haute Trash

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 2:11:00 PM, Anonymous dizzle said…

    Erin, you have the right attitude. I am glad for mistakes I make because I don't make them the next time, and I learn something. And I don't care if anyone else likes what I am wearing; I care if I like it. I cannot believe that anyone had the gall to write you something like that. You may not have sewn that garment in the orthodox manner that the commenter would have liked, but the commenter needs to learn social graces. Rudeness is much more gut-wrenching than not caring for someone's creative handiwork.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 2:15:00 PM, Anonymous Alvrodul said…

    If Xan had her druthers, _I_ would never have started sewing at all, since I am entirely self-taught. I have had a lot of "learning experiences" over the years, and as I have learned, I have also become more ... adventurous. The most fun sewing projects have been those where I have used the pattern as a _beginning_. I know what I want to sew, but that pattern isn't IT. But I can get there from here. If I just alter _that_ piece just so, and this other one correspondingly; and _this_ piece needs to be cut apart _here_. And I need an extra pattern piece that goes _there_.
    *Smugly contemplates new winter coat, finished just last week* I am sure Xan would act appalled if she saw it, while quietly expiring from envy. And making it - and especially doing those changes - was just FUN!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 2:20:00 PM, Blogger Marge, Born Too Late Vintage said…

    A long time ago a very wise woman told me that I'd learn a lot more from my mistakes than I ever would from my successes.

    This same wise woman told me that while you are always entitled to your opinion there are times when you should keep your opinion to yourself. So I will keep my opinion to myself in reference to Xan's commentary.

    Experimenting is what keeps life interesting.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 2:21:00 PM, Blogger Margret said…

    I am delighted that so many people WANT to sew. It is satisfying and fills a creative need to construct a pretty piece of clothing out of a flat fabric. Too many of our creative arts are being lost to history because there isn't time in our busy lives to participate. I love that I can peek into others' sewing rooms and see their projects. A Dress A Day has been showing me the beauty of vintage patterns, and to see them made up into dresses that ARE worn and loved has given me a whole new perspective. Thank you very much, Erin.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 2:27:00 PM, Blogger Erin said…

    I should also point out that I kinda agree with wundermary: I should take my time, more often. But when the choice is "do it fast OR don't do it" I always come down on the side of do it fast. :-)

    I'm actually putting off making a particular dress because matching the patterns is going to suck so hugely much. But I will do it someday!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 2:30:00 PM, Blogger Sewing Siren said…

    Following the rules too closely causes constipation....and depression also.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 2:43:00 PM, Blogger Doris said…

    So, let me get this straight, you linked to Xan's site, sending who knows how many new customers and browsers to her site, and she had the nerve, (the gall!) to write that comment?!

    Erin, you always handle these people with such class, such poise, and just the right words to state your case. I admire you so much. Well said and well played.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 3:03:00 PM, Blogger Zoltar Panaflex said…

    Erin, clearly you're supposed to ask permission to stray out of the lines.

    Rules were made to be broken, and patterns will always have innovations. I never follow every rule in patterns, that's the *point* isn't it?

    The most reprehensible reason for following the rules is "We've been doing it that way for 20 years!".

    Do as you please, Erin, of course. Clothing is an art form, not a term paper!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 3:13:00 PM, Anonymous TopsyTurvey said…

    I'm with Adelaide B. I don't understand why a business owner would alienate all these potential customers. Her comments were too just plain nasty to be well intended. Comments like those discourage others from sewing and from blogging.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 3:15:00 PM, Blogger Erin said…

    Oh, I forgot to reassure xstpenguin and others that I don't read people's comments with red pencil in hand. I'm not the Grammar Police, I promise!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 3:44:00 PM, Blogger jen said…

    the "weird" fabrics you use in your dresses, i think, is a distinct part of your fashion sense and personality (i'm assuming) and that is a wonderful thing about you and this blog.

    i screw up all the time when sewing and i used to get paid to do it! (not paid to screw up but to sew.) i don't think any of my dresses would sell in a store and i often regret fabric choices. ("hand" is definitely something that i'm learning i need to respect and take into consideration - i'm too often charmed by the price and cute prints of calico.)

    i love the dress in question btw.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 3:44:00 PM, Anonymous Jennifer said…

    Hi Erin,

    part of the reason I've gotten back into sewing is you. This year I've even started wearing skirts! (one day I may even venture out in an actual dress...people may faint)

    When I sew I do like to follow the pattern instructions, but I see this as learning the rules so I will know how to break them. Can't wait!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 4:22:00 PM, Anonymous Theresa said…

    Oh. My. God. What nerve! You, and you alone Erin have given me the courage to attempt, plaid, covered buttons, patterns marked "advanced". Why? Because you shwo your mistakes, experiments gon awry and it gives me the courage to "mess up." If it looks remotely like the pattern illustration and it fits and hangs right I am danged proud of my work.
    I can't believe this is how she returns your kindness and support of her site. Boo! Hiss!
    Sure everyone has a right to their opinion but do they have the right to be MEAN?!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 4:35:00 PM, Blogger AG said…

    People like Xan are the reason people like me avoid certain fabric stores and classes. I suspect her gut "wrenches" around her good breeding on a regular basis, as it did here. Otherwise she'd remember that, as our mothers taught us, an imperfect dress worn by a charming woman is much more becoming than a perfectly constructed dress on an unpleasant woman. Every time.

    And it's people like you, Erin, who make sewing itself -- and the contemplation of taking on a project that might just prove challenging -- such a pleasure. Thanks so much for this blog (and oh, I cannot wait to read the novel)!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 4:40:00 PM, Anonymous Jean S said…

    Hi Erin,

    a couple of random thoughts ...

    obviously, this touches on the perfectionism nerve. Either you have that one or you don't. Me, I gots it, so I slow down to match plaids and the suchlike, because I'm old enough to know that it will forevermore bug the hell out of me if I don't do it to my satisfaction the first time.

    also, it touches on the "I don't approve of the way you did xyz, and I'm gonna let you know it" nerve. That one, I don't have. I have my opinions, for sure, but I'm also old enough to appreciate the wisdom in that wonderful old saying--

    "Each to their own," said the old woman as she kissed the cow.

    If I ever do my own blog, that's gonna be up there somewhere.

    cheers!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 4:47:00 PM, Blogger Sewing Siren said…

    At the risk of being a bore, I wanted to add that after have clicked on the link to the pattern, the illustrator most certainly did invision this garment in a drapey soft fabric (grey on left). I am certainly not an expert seamstress, but I do know a wee bit about garment design and production and I really don't see why using a soft light weight fabric would be so wrong on this dress.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 4:51:00 PM, Blogger quinn said…

    Erin,
    I'm not going to read all the comments, because it seems pretty likely that Xan has been royally raked over the coals.
    Just want to say that, in my opinion, you are a class act.
    Nicely done.
    ;)

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 4:53:00 PM, Blogger Kelly said…

    I have been sewing for a really long time maybe some 34 years. I think I started when I was about 6 or so. When I first started way back then, there were a lot of rules. Do it this way... don't do it that way and I hated every minute of it. I might add that I was formally taught for a few of those years. It was a great eye opener when I realized that just doing it my own way gave me a lot more enjoyment out of it. Plus I still had a wearable item doing it my own way.

    I still make mistakes but I learn a lot from those mistakes. So thanks Erin. You say things with such class and grace. It is a shame that there are not more people with the same grace.

    k

    ps. La BellaDonna, that is a tough one since you have had good a report with her in the past and had recommended her to others. I would be very disstressed as well. that is a tough one with no easy answer. Sorry.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 4:53:00 PM, Blogger Elle said…

    Boy, people really went off the handle on this one. Xan is terrific, Erin is terrific. Xan is having a rough time (see her blog), said something in a less than graceful manner, which she will probably regret. Remember the Dalai Lama, “Compassion is my religion.” Also the saying, “To know all is to forgive all.” Attribution, Erin?

    Xan is passionate about her work, and she lived with that pattern to multi-size it. (I'm thrilled she did that, because now I can afford to make it.) I'm guessing that it is very important to her to see it made up in a fabric that, once the starch/sizing/whatever is washed out, does justice to the pattern. She probably really wanted to see it on Dressaday.

    I think Erin's dress is lovely, but it doesn't really look like the illustration. When I make it, I want it to look like the illustration, because that's why I bought that pattern. How can I achieve that? By making it in the appropriate type of fabric for that design. I can be innovative, but I shouldn't stray too far from the drape, weight, etc of the recommended fabrics. At least not if I want it to resemble to illustration.

    I've learned this one the hard way, wish someone had made this abundantly clear to me when I first started sewing. I’m sure Erin knows all of this, she made her own choices, Xan disagreed with them, and I get the sense that people are reading something different into her comments because of their own sewing issues – which I share.

    There are two critical pieces of information in this exchange. The first is that some kind of starch can make silk charmeuse more manageable, thanks for that. I shall go find some of that stuff.

    The second piece of critical information, which I think is important for people to focus on, is the point that Wundermary made above. Before you can play, understand what you’re playing with fabric-wise. I had to re-learn this recently. Boy, did I make the wrong choice recently for a Loes Hinse jacket. I really, really wanted to make that design, and I wanted the properties of this material, but the two did not work well together. It’s fine, I actually like the suit, but it wasn’t what I wanted when I put a ton of work into it. So Xan’s comment resonated with me.

    The correct type of fabric will support the design. Not "correct" per the Fashion Police, but correct for the design itself (i.e., a nightgown designed for denim – don’t use silk chiffon if you want it to look like the illustration!), so that I don't end up with yet another piece that has me scratching my head, wondering why it just doesn't look right. I've learned to not stray from the recommended fabrics (the hard way), and I think that is what Xan is talking about. It is advice that you'll find in every sewing book. And will result in an item that is fun to sew, what you expected once the starch is washed out, and great to wear. I don’t have enough time to learn everything from my mistakes, that’s why I take classes at my local sewing center and at PR and read books. In other words, I apply myself. I’m obviously talking to people like me, who are still learning quite a bit about the basics, and I saw quite a bit of this in the comments above.

    So maybe there are three things that we can take away from this exchange: (1) use an appropriate type of fabric for the design, unless you really do want something different and you know what you’re doing; (2) use some type of temporary sizing to make slipper fabrics easier to work with; and (3) take advantage of the tons of information out there so that the results make you happy, not just the process.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 4:54:00 PM, Blogger Sold A Moke said…

    Wow, what a wonderful response to Xan. I really don't understand her problem or why she felt she needed to be so snobby. Her problem.

    I enjoy the fact that you are so public with your work, and I appreciate your efforts.

    I am a late-in-life learner and really love the creativity used in making these old patterns.

    So bug off, Xan. Let each of us explore and enjoy ourselves. Happy sewing everyone!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 5:02:00 PM, Anonymous AllieAnalogue said…

    Erin, thank you so much for this great post-- a really elegant Finger to a clearly unhappy, self-conscious, small-minded snob. Poor thing. Rock on to all of the weird, mismatched, experimental sewers and crafters!

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 6:00:00 PM, Blogger Arion said…

    Erin, thank you! As a previous commenter said, if Coco Chanel had worried about the "respectable and correct" way of doing things, we'd all still be wearing corsets! If people didn't throw the rules out the window occasionally, there would never be any change or innovation!

    And Xan, the first garment I ever sewed was a dress, made from flannel Mickey Mouse sheets. And I love it dearly, thank you very much.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 6:15:00 PM, Blogger Jonquil said…

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  • At Dec 10, 2008 6:18:00 PM, Blogger Jonquil said…

    "I'm guessing that it is very important to her to see it made up in a fabric that, once the starch/sizing/whatever is washed out, does justice to the pattern. She probably really wanted to see it on Dressaday. "

    As it happens, Erin made her dress from the original pattern, not from Xan's redrafting. She said so in the original posting.

    I would have chosen dupioni rather than charmeuse myself, but I wouldn't have had the courage to try the pattern at all.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 6:41:00 PM, Blogger tcarole said…

    Elle, while your solitary defense of Xan's rant about the "correct" way to do things was brave amidst the vast community of Erin fans, I think the general consensus here is not so much that Xan is wrong - though obviously, many here find joy in doing things their own way. We all have opinions about what we like and how we like to do things. But her delivery of said opinion was way out of line.

    If Xan is really concerned about doing things the "correct" or "respectable" way, she might pick up an Emily Post sometime. I'm sure it says in there somewhere that if you don't have anything nice to say, keep it to yourself.

    And to be so rude to someone who promoted you on her well-read blog? Well, that's just business suicide. I'd be trying to find time to write an apology if I were her.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 7:24:00 PM, Blogger Cookie said…

    Golly!

    What an ostentatious, sour puss killjoy that Xan woman came across as! Her letter doesn't contain any advice, it's merely a rant about how busy and PAINED she is...pained by SO MANY people, not just Erin. I wonder what Miss Xan thought we were going to carry away from her gripe-fest. Something productive?

    She strikes me as the kind of person who wanted to be a designer herself, and now guards the "perfection" she sees in the designs of others she's collected. (Xan is the expert, Xan is the fashion gatekeeper.) I see this attitude when shopping for antiques and vintage jewelry, sometimes. The shop owner will be so condescendingly smug and knowledgeable, I want to remind them that all they're really doing is ripping off someone else's real artistry and plopping a markup value on it.

    A good thing about trying things differently once in a while is, suppose you yourself felt that this fabric was really NOT the way to go. Now, you can actually get down on your knees before your daughter or whoever and say, "TRUST ME! Don't make the mistakes I DID! I KNOW where you're HEADED! If you MUST go down that path, take this SIZING with you!" You can describe in detail what the challenge is firsthand, rather than lamely murmur, "Well, in books they say...."

    But the other possibility is, maybe the dress in that fabric pleases you. The silhouette may turn out differently than the picture, but maybe that's actually more flattering. Maybe you'd stay at a wedding an hour longer, and enjoy yourself more, because there was something soft caressing your skin, and not a sharp organza creasing or cutting you? Maybe you're going to own the dress in TWO fabrics, one stiff and one slinky? It's your closet, your time, your appearances, your pleasures, your LIFE. Good for you.

    I'm sending Xan a Xanax.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 8:26:00 PM, Blogger Becky said…

    Erin, you are awesome.

    And Zoltar Panaflex -- term papers are an art form, too! I'm always encouraging my freshman comp students to experiment, take risks, and break the rules of "good" writing (so that they can find what they like or, maybe, discover something great). :-)

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 8:30:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Wow, Xan's original comment and a couple in this thread made me feel really sad.

    Something BellaDonna said really resonated with me: Don't let fear rule your lives.

    Who among us hasn't spent YEARS thinking "I shouldn't use the nice china", "I shouldn't take five days off to go on an impromptu road trip", "I shouldn't quit this job until I have another one", "I shouldn't pursue my dreams", etc etc etc?

    To me, being too scared to try something in case it doesn't turn out sufficiently perfect is exactly the same, and it sucks time and joy out of your life. I am trying hard to cultivate a twofold attitude in life:

    1) "Try it and see what happens"
    2) "Who cares what other people think"

    It saddens me to see Xan's comment try so very very hard to talk people she doesn't even know into living in fear, fear that they'll use the wrong fabric, fear that it won't be perfect, fear of what she, Xan, or Wundermary, or anyone else, will think about their project. What on earth could be going on in your own soul that you really want other people to fear?

    I appreciate Erin's commonsense in the face of such silliness.

    I love Dress A Day. I LOVE IT when Erin posts one of her home-sewn garments. You know why? Because that's the kind of seamstress I am, too. The kind who's figuring it out as I go. The kind who's trying to be kind to herself, and trying to be okay with the possibility of messing things up. The kind who loves fabric and loves clothes and wants to try it out and see what will happen.

    I have always been perplexed that Xan/Evadress has a business model based on grading up patterns designed by others for resale, but shrugged it off as something I was probably misreading. But I will certainly not be purchasing anything from her store. I want to support woman-owned crafty businesses, but not if they're pre-emptively horrified by the fact that I will probably finish my seams in a way they consider wrong, WRONG WRONG.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 9:29:00 PM, Blogger Cookie said…

    PS: Miss Xandra might do well to re-read her own blog entry from a while back:

    I feel these vintage patterns are an assortment of colors, if you will. They are colors which are packaged in the form of paper patterns in which many different people see many different possibilities and from which they will render so many wonderful results. >>

    She may want to update that to explain how your "different possibilities" might be publicly condemned by her (after you'be purchased her product) (or even if you haven't), should they dare to stray from her personal vision for them.

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 9:34:00 PM, Blogger Erin said…

    Well said, Erin. Sewing, in fact, helps me get over my perfectionist streak. I'm a novice, and I have to recognize that I'm going to make mistakes. BUT -- I have to remember that my mistakes are learning opportunities. For me, I have to forgive myself and enjoy the process -- and curse less and not get down on myself for not getting stuff right away. If sewing is going to be stressful, what sort of a hobby is it? Live the cliche: Learn from your mistakes. :D

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 9:54:00 PM, Anonymous Emily said…

    "Life is short. Wear your party pants *skirt*"

    My fear of people saying exactly this is what made me not sew anything else after my first/last project. It didn't fit well and the bodice went together wonky. However, since I read this blog everyday, the desire to try again is still there. I just came home from the fabric store. I've got a gorgeous new dress waiting for me to sew it, (and a new top too). All I have to do is get some guts.

    I probably won't share the finished product with you though, 'cause I suck at sewing. :-)

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 9:56:00 PM, Anonymous Kim K. in Western PA said…

    Erin,
    I love both your blog and your attitude. Xan's comment reminded me of the old standby - if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all. By the way, your style is eclectic, stylish and completely your own. Keep on keepin' on.
    Kim

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:13:00 PM, Blogger Nettie said…

    Erin,

    Reading your blog every day brightens my day. You are a class act, not only in your openness to the entire world and respectful discussion with whoever shows up on your virtual doorstep - but also in every piece of clothing that you have shared with us on your wonderful blog. You have exquisite taste and even better character.

    Thanks for experimenting. Thanks for sewing. Thanks for writing. And thanks so much for caring so much about all three.

    Annette in Toledo

     
  • At Dec 10, 2008 10:22:00 PM, Anonymous Bachelor Girl said…

    Darn right, Erin - so what? Having just learned to sew a few years ago, I find a lot of inspiration here on your site from both your successes and your less-than-successes. And you're absolutely right - we learn more from experimentation and exploration than we do from rigidly following the rules. Keep up the great work!

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 1:45:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I have been lurking on your blog for ages (thank you, by the way), and it makes me laugh that there are people who bother to leave that kind of negative comment. I don't have enough time to leave comments on all the fantastic things I see on the blogs I read, let alone go sniping. I also don't understand why you would go on looking at sewing sites if it causes such pain...

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 5:57:00 AM, Blogger oracle said…

    Erin, I'm totally with you on this. I aspire to have more of your courage and spirit of adventure and less of my own perfectionism. This is one of the reasons I regularly read your blog.

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 6:19:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Erin, thanks for defending those of us who not only aren't perfect, but who live in the real world. I visited Xan's site and it is beautiful and idealistic. Her photos show dresses many of us could never wear, for instance, and it's all beautiful, artistic, etc. I'd love for my wardrobe, and everyone's wardrobe, to be that perfect, but we all know how soon that will happen. There was nothing positive or helpful about her comment.
    Dawn

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 6:21:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    After Erin's initial post about sizing her fabric so that it was more manageable, I quickly ran to my fabric shop to ask for some such spray, only to get an appalled look and a very similar response to Xan's from the lady in the shop (in the UK). I ended up going home with marked up paper to pin down my rayon faille so that it wouldn't shift while I traced and cut it. I spent AN AGE getting the fabric ready, even before I could get round to tracing and cutting... Now I'm sure that's the 'correct' way of going about it, but sometimes, you just don't have all those hours, and if there is a wonder spray out there that you can simply wash out afterwards -- I still want it!

    Have bought some patterns from Xan recently and she was most courteous and efficient. She must have been having a pretty off day when she wrote this -- to Erin, who wrote a very measured letter back. Erin was the one who chose to make it public though, so we shouldn't be turning this into a witch-hunt against Xan.

    Erin's blog is a delight because she is happy to show both her successes and her mistakes. It is a blog about the joys and pitfalls of sewing, buying fabric, fashion through the ages, etc -- not about how great she is, and 'look at what a fine job I've done'. Sewing can also be about fun and trying different things. If it was only ever about making the perfect garment, it would be really stifling and boring.

    So now, where's that spray?...

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 6:36:00 AM, Blogger oracle said…

    Dear, dear La Belladonna,

    If Xan truly meant her comment with the snarky attitude with which it comes across, it is not your fault. Not your fault. You are in no way responsible for her, or anyone else's, behaviour. You made recommendations based on what sounds like a great deal of good information and experience. It's difficult, if not impossible, to know why this person now appears to have presented herself in a way that so contradicts all your other experience with her, but people do this sometimes. It's not your fault. And in case this thing has plunged you into self-doubt about the reliability of your own judgement, no need to go there. Your presence on this blog has shown such good intention, such goodwill and caring toward others! No need for us not to trust you; most important is that you don't stop trusting yourself. Sometimes people shock us by contradicting themselves in ways we could not have seen coming. I recently had it happen to me with someone I had trusted for years. Turns out he probably has Borderline Personality Disorder—he has fooled a lot of people. (I'm not saying Xan has BPD!) You are very experienced and no doubt that's partly why you are so thrown that you didn't see this one coming; but that's the nature of the thing. No need to doubt yourself. You are fine. Let your judgement only be strengthened by this thing. Don't hold back from continuing to offer yourself the way you do. We need you.

    You come across as so kind and decent that I believe you wouldn't want to be put up on a pedestal as being an iconic good person, would you? Well, I'm not saying you're better than others. I'm just taking time out to try to boost you up, because you seem to be so down about what happened here. And I mean everything I'm saying.

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 8:01:00 AM, Blogger oracle said…

    I just read the comment from Anonymous 6:21 a.m. (the one just before my previous post) and want to say that I agree that we should not be turning this into trashing Xan.

    Anonymous's comment has made me concerned that my post to La Belladonna might be misunderstood as implying something about Xan that could end up subversively encouraging the trashing of her. I referred in my comment to a very serious and destructive experience I've had recently with a pathologically deceptive person who turned around and tried to do me actual harm in my life, and I implied that many people now believe that that person has an identifiable mental illness. I want to make it clear again, in case it was not clear enough, that I honestly did not intend to imply that Xan's behaviour could fit that or any other description of mental illness. My message was directed toward La Belladonna and her obvious concern that she may have made an error in judgement that had implications for other people in turn. I was trying to assure her that no matter how much experience we have, we cannot always know that someone we believe to be one way is not who we thought them to be. As for this person Xan, with whom I have no experience, I make no assumptions at all, including those as to where she was really coming from when she wrote Erin. As Anonymous 6:21 said, Xan may just have been having a bad day and expressed her views to Erin with more edge than was needed.

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 8:27:00 AM, Anonymous MaryV said…

    Classy & thoughful response, Erin.

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 8:31:00 AM, Blogger Latter-Day Flapper said…

    "Respectable and correct" is usually in the eye of the beholder, anyway. Wasn't Coco Chanel totally "incorrect" when she started using wool jersey?

    And I'm sorry, but war is gut-wrenching. Child abuse is gut-wrenching. Some of the things I had to deal with when I worked for a veterinarian were gut-wrenching. Somebody else's taste in clothing is not gut-wrenching. I hate the way my mother dresses, but it's definitely not "gut-wrenching"; no babies have starved or kittens been run over because of her high-water stretch pants. Let's get a little perspective here.

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 8:43:00 AM, Blogger Miss Kitty said…

    Thanks so much for this post, Erin. It gives me hope and encouragement as a beginning sewer. :-)

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 9:13:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hi Oracle, dont worry my 'witch-hunt' comment wasn't at all in response to your post (which hadn't even been posted at the time I was writing). On the contrary, I entirely agree with your assessment of the situation, as well as your reassurance to La Belladonna. Certain comments by others did make me feel a little uneasy however. The lovely thing about this blog is its celebration of sewing and clothes. Occasionally however, I've noticed its 'guests' ganging up against someone because they dare voice an opinion. However wrong or ill-advised that opinion may be, I think Erin is quite capable of standing up for herself, as she has so aptly proven time and again. I understand why she mentioned this letter here, and just I don't think it was for the purpose of Xan bashing -- which this seemed to veer dangerously close to at times, despite Erin's attempt at calming things down.

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 9:32:00 AM, OpenID sewducky said…

    Anonymous at 6:21, actually Xan left a very public comment on the site for all to read. Erin chose to respond to it as a post, instead of the comments.

    I'm not attacking Xan, or Erin, or anyone else. I am stating my opinion that I won't be shopping there because *I* feel she could have made the comments with more tact, and I don't feel like giving my money to someone who feels they are entitled to be that mean in saying they didn't like something. As a consumer, I have to speak with my checkbook.

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 10:03:00 AM, Blogger Sickofitcindy said…

    A very classy response Erin. My response would be more along the lines "why you ?*&!"!!!!!"

    I'm very disappointed in the attitude of this person. I have purchased several patterns from Evadress. Now I feel like I would not want to post pictures of my projects, knowing that somewhere she is tsk tsking me for my choices and that I'm being judged.

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 10:12:00 AM, Blogger LibrariAnon said…

    I've given this some more thought over night and after reading some new comments, and there are a few points I think are important:

    1. Nothing will ever, ever sew up like the drawing on a vintage pattern envelope. You can get close, if you have the right body type, but it will never look just like the package, and it does not matter what fabric you use.

    This is for the simple fact that those drawings are stylized, simplified, idealized, 2 dimensional representations of real, complicated, diverse, 3 dimensional human beings. Once you realize that it's darned near impossible to look like the lady on the package, but you can still make something that looks GOOD on you, it takes a lot of the pressure off.

    2. Certain designs look good in certain fabrics in certain colors on certain figures (the trick to a flattering garment being to figure out the combinations that complement you, the maker and wearer, as an individual, in both taste and suitability to your figure and coloring).

    It's really not very useful to make comments on the "correctness" of the (recommended or suggested, not demanded, might I add) fabric for the pattern if you do not see it on the intended wearer. Yes, those who have sewn a lot may be able to make an educated assumption as to what the garment will look like on, but you can't really know based on even an educated assumption.

    3. It does not make sense to use a fabric that is "correct," but that you will never, ever wear. It does, however, make sense to use a fabric that you like, even if it will not look precisely like the design on the package, if that is what you, the maker and wearer, want.

    Points 1 and 2 are completely irrelevant IF the garment makes you feel good when you put it on. If it's flawed, but gives you a sense of acomplishment, or feels nice against your skin, or anything else that makes you want to wear it, it is a successful garment.

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 11:02:00 AM, Blogger MadeByAmanda said…

    I think criticizing someone's sewn (or otherwise crafted) items is as pointless as criticizing their tattoo. It's too late, and they've already learned any lesson that they were going to learn, without your input.

    Plus, what you see as a horrible, awful mistake, they may see as a wonderful artistic expression.

    In any case, as I said, it is already too late to change what has been done, and you have to consider what you hope to accomplish with your criticism.

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 11:30:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hi Sewducky, you're absolutely right. Xan did post it as a comment for all to see (except me, it would seem!). Wow. Talk about alienating your core audience... Erin, I admire you. Your response was even more measured than I thought. I'd have been fuming!

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 11:36:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I guess sending this poster tix to a Maplethorpe exhibit would be right out then?

    You sew whatever you want to and party on. It's your backside, wear what you want on it!

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 11:53:00 AM, Anonymous Norma said…

    What's wrong with using size???? Its used in practically everthing sewn in the industry! Size is just a glue like substance that makes the handle of a fabric firmer and easier to manipulate. That's why you need to wash everything you buy from a shop before use - sheets, clothes etc etc. For everyday sewing at home I use the humble spray on Dylon starch - quick spray, iron and its SO much easier to cut and work with slippery fabrics, stops seam puckering, fraying etc until its washed out. Brilliant. Cheap. And life is SO much easier! Like I said, its used in the industry to make mass production easier, so why not in the home sewing room?

    Erin, I love your blog and love how you dealt with this. I read the original comment when it was posted and did a 'sharp inhalation of air' muttered a few 'tut tut's' and left it at that, but I'm so glad you've stood up for yourself!

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 11:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    What you do is called whimsical and thinking out of the box. Has she not watched project runway or know anything about fashion just because they say this is what is used for does not mean thats what you must use it for.

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 12:33:00 PM, Blogger annasoc said…

    I was taken aback when I read Xan's critical post about Erin's execution of and fabric choices for the McCardell dress, but I have to jump in and praise Xan for grading and making available all these lovely couture patterns from the past. I've often seen lovely vintage patterns on reselling sites or on Ebay that are only available in a bust size 32, which I haven't worn since middle school. To take the time to grade and make available these wonderful patterns to a wider range of body sizes is a labor of love. As are Erin's efforts to sew up these wonderful dresses and reinterpret them in modern fabrics (like the Target curtain--rock on Erin) and incorporate them in her modern life. Kudos to both Erin and Xan for what they do in their own different ways to contribute to the creative world and creative process. I am inspired by both of them.
    Anna

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 1:11:00 PM, Blogger Stacy said…

    I recently had a commenter on my blog that told me a dress I made for my 3 year old was soooooooooooo uglyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    My gut reaction, was how rude! My next reaction was "delete".

    The Internet allows people to have no public personal recrimination for comments they wouldn't deem to make in person for the castigation they would receive. Doing so on a very public and well read blog when you have a business in that area is a definite lapse in judgement.

    As to her comments on making things the right way with the right fabrics, I can see where she would like these dresses to appear as they were intended. They are quite beautiful as drawn. Unfortunately, women are not Barbie dolls and do not have those proportions, so really it was never in the realm of possibility in the first place.

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 2:03:00 PM, Blogger Cookie said…

    << What you do is called whimsical and thinking out of the box. >>

    That's a good point.

    Erin's is a style of its own, it seems to me, rather like the Eclectic Style we see in architecture...which began (I think) around the Turn of the Century. The Eclectic style could combine elements of all styles that had come before, and was often used when building less serious, more care-free homes, such as summer houses...where people wanted to relax, have fun, and throw off the rigidity of city life.

    Wikipedia says: Eclecticism is a conceptual approach that does not hold rigidly to a single paradigm or set of assumptions, but instead draws upon multiple theories, styles, or ideas to gain complementary insights into a subject, or applies different theories in particular cases.

    I like it!

    Sadly, some of our beautiful and LIVEABLE Eclectic architecture in Hollywood has vanished because preservationists are often less likely to have a firm set of standards by which to evaluate its "worthiness" (one of the steps in designating a site as a cultural or historic resource).

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 5:50:00 PM, Anonymous Anna said…

    I will never understand the compulsion to be so gratuitously nasty about someone else's work.

    I had been planning to buy a pattern from Evadress, but I would hate to give her the gut-wrenching experience of seeing how I chose to make it up.

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 6:14:00 PM, Anonymous Beth said…

    Xan's post drives home to me why I've learned to think differently. As a teen, I used to think, "Yuck, I don't like that," or, "That's not right. How can they do that?!"

    Then I realized that I should be thinking, "Hmmm, I don't get it," which is an indication of my lack of comprehension and appreciation, and is not a judgment on someone else's work or choices.

    Passing outraged judgment is better saved for moral issues, such as political corruption and human rights violations.

     
  • At Dec 11, 2008 8:28:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Erin,

    I must say I love your blog, and appreciate the energy you put into it. I like the way you handled the contentious comment in this particular entry. When we type things and hit the enter button, they are there for all to see; considering our words carefully, especially when leaving negative feedback, is an essential courtesy.

    As an aside, I love what you did with the nursery curtain fabric! Truly, you see things with an unique eye.

    Andrea

     
  • At Dec 12, 2008 8:42:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I think the thing about 'home patterns' is that you can do what you want?? If you go to a designer shop you buy their version of an outfit. If you make up a pattern yourself then surely you can do what you want? A list of fabrics is just as it says RECOMMENDED, not statutory!

     
  • At Dec 12, 2008 11:44:00 AM, Blogger Katherine said…

    Erin, you've always reminded me a little of Ms. Frizzle (of Magic Schoolbus fame) and this just seems like a moment when that's especially true. What does she holler, as she stands there in those dresses that mysteriously morph into a pattern that shows whatever the day's lesson is? "Take chances, make mistakes, get messy!" As your wonderful commentators noted, this is how we learn, and life's no finished masterpiece; rather, it is a process of continual revision and process. Keep on sewing, and I'll be here, a devoted fan, reading.

     
  • At Dec 12, 2008 12:49:00 PM, Blogger A Soldier's Girl said…

    If my efforts had ever been met with the amount of condescension Xan shows in this comment, I'd have hung up my dressmaker's shears long ago.

    My roommate, who is still learning how to sew, was appalled and said that hearing/reading something like that would cause him to trash his brand-new (GORGEOUS) linen fighting cotehardie and go back to his old surcote. (We're SCAdians and make a lot of our own garb.)

    How sad that she has such a wealth of knowledge and such horrid presentation.

    I'm awfully glad I haven't run into anyone like that commenting on my pitiful little projects.

     
  • At Dec 12, 2008 3:41:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I enjoy reading this blog, but I have to say that when bloggers respond to negative comments, those are the least enjoyable posts for me. I understand that they are irksome, but I do tend to think more of those bloggers who are able to resist the temptation to use their blog as the forum to discuss these matters. It just rubs me the wrong way. Same with Letters to the Editor pages that insist on appending an editorial comment to each letter published -- I think that it is not unreasonable to allow readers to have the last word sometimes, like it or not.

     
  • At Dec 12, 2008 5:44:00 PM, Blogger Cookie said…

    << when bloggers respond to negative comments, those are the least enjoyable posts for me. I understand that they are irksome, but I do tend to think more of those bloggers who are able to resist the temptation to use their blog as the forum to discuss these matters. It just rubs me the wrong way. >>

    Xan, is that you?

     
  • At Dec 12, 2008 5:51:00 PM, Anonymous La BellaDonna said…

    Oracle, thank you so much for your kind message - and for the effort you made to make certain I read it.

    Heh. I don't think anyone's going to be putting me on any kind of pedestal as an iconic good person anytime soon; in fact, I was just recently castigated as a bully over at violentacres.com, in the comments section of a post on Nice Guys Don't Get Laid Because They're Creeps. It certainly took me aback. My sin was apparently in having the temerity to offer Nice Guys™ some actual tips on how to increase the likelihood of their meeting women who might become girlfriends. The offending lines were as follows:

    For doG’s sake, guys, pick up a couple of books on etiquette - yes, etiquette - general grooming, and take dance lessons while you’re at it, so you have something to bring to the table besides your somewhat elusive charm. My brother - late 40s, no hair, fat by anyone’s standards, and a very nice guy indeed, finally met the girl who was right for him - taller, blonde, pretty, 15 years younger, smart and geeky herself.

    For Pete’s sake, if you treated social skills as if they were any other skills to be mastered, and spent at least half the time learning them as you do whining about why women don’t appreciate you “as you are”, you might actually find some women who would, in fact, appreciate you - because by that time, there’d be something to appreciate.

    I’d also like to point out to the Nice Guys™ who have only the fact that they’re “nice” to bring to the table, that the guys who are Nice, and also funny, or who are Nice, and goodlooking, or who are Nice, and also smart, or Nice, and have decent jobs, or who are Nice, and like to go swing-dancing, are automatically at least one step ahead of the guys who only have “nice” going for them. When a guy is “nice”, but also “whiney”, or “”nice”" (yes, it warrants TWO sets of quotes) and misogynistic, that puts him TWO steps behind the guy who is merely “nice”, and THREE steps behind the guy who is Nice and enjoys gourmet cooking - and cleans up afterward.

    “Nice” by itself IS NOT ENOUGH. It’s a flippin’ adjective. If it’s the only one you have going for you, go get some more. If all a woman had going for her in terms of a description was “nice”, you certainly wouldn’t be lining up to date her. How do I know this? Because there are plenty of perfectly nice women in high school, in college, in graduate school, out working, who AREN’T dating, and who would like to. Based on personal interviews with Nice Guys™, and extensive reading, Nice Guys™ all want to date Pamela Anderson - or, these days, her younger sister/equivalent. Polish up your social skills, broaden your own criteria, and stifle your sense of entitlement, and your chances of dating and/or forming relationships should increase exponentially.


    For this, I was called a "schoolyard bully", and it went downhill from there. It was my opinion that the person who wrote that (and more) had a perspective on the world, on women, and on me that was such as to prevent me from being able to communicate with him. If anybody would like to see me be excoriated, feel free to go over to violentacres.com; VA is a good, often a powerful writer, but she does curse a lot, which may bother some folks.

    So your comments, Oracle, probably did even more good than you intended, because I'd certainly gotten my iggle feelings hurted from trying (I thought) to help.

    And yes, I did feel responsible, but more than that, puzzled, kind of hurt, and very anxious as a result of Xan's posts. She's written a couple of them now, and they just seem to be phrased so meanly, as if they were meant to hurt, not just disagree - yet my experience with her has been very different. I wasn't happy that she was being so, well, mean to Erin in the way she phrased her opinion, but more than that, I was distressed because all I could think of was the harm she was doing to herself with her posts. We come here because we love the place Erin has made for us, and even those of us with different (sometimes very different) outlooks don't enjoy seeing someone being what we perceive as deliberately mean. I know that Xan has had a very tough time, and that she is passionately devoted to what she is doing. I have cause to be very grateful to her; there are not a lot of patterns in the upper size range for vintage pattern lovers, and the fact that she has made these beautiful patterns accessible to all different sizes of women is a wonderful thing. And it's obvious that she did it for more than just the money; she really does want all women, from tiny to plus-size, to have access. Xan reacted, in fact (or at least in my opinion), like a religious devotee who stubbed her toe on an apostate.

    If we were to get right down to the nitty-gritty, Erin's sewing methods ... well, they aren't mine. I have been accused by other stitchers of being a perfectionist. I don't actually consider myself one, because I don't think my things are perfect, but I do sew differently from the way Erin sometimes does. HOWEVER ... there are a couple of dresses on Xan's site that I don't think came out the way I would have wanted them to, had I made them. I'm not going to specify which ones they are, because I don't think it's important. Xan obviously sews with a great deal of care and painstaking precision; that said, the end results don't always justify the work that went into them. So it is for sewing with all of us.

    Mostly I'm sorry she's alienated so many of Erin's ADaDers; I'm afraid it may have serious adverse affects on her business, which would be a pity, because I think, ultimately, Xan and Erin want the same things: to make pretty dresses, and the ability to make one's very own pretty dresses, accessible to more people. Again, it's two different people, with very different approaches; St. Francis of Assisi and Torquemada were both interested in saving souls, and they, too, used different approaches. I think the last thing that Xan would want would be to alienate other people from sewing; I suspect that might even bother her more than the thought of alienating people from her business, because her motivation in her business seems to be from love of the art itself and a desire to share it with as many people as possible.

    I'm not happy with intentional meanness in any form, and there does seem to be an awful lot of it on the internet. I don't enjoy mean comments aimed at Erin; I also don't enjoy mean comments aimed at Xan, because how does that mend anything? However, it's also becoming apparent to me that intentions and appearances seem to vary vastly between the writer and the reader. It's possible that Xan did not, in fact, intend her post to be mean, nor consider it as such. I certainly didn't expect what I wrote to be interpreted as bullying, under any circumstance; nor do I consider myself a bully. Yet someone was able to interpret what I wrote, intending to be helpful, as bullying, and no amount of explanation seemed likely to deter him from his assessment.

    I certainly don't want to be in HIS company; so ... I'm going to cut Xan a break. I wasn't happy when someone interpreted what I wrote in the WORST possible light; what right do I have to do that to someone else?

    Oracle, I'd like to thank you again - and quite a few of the other posters - for helping me with this. It does remind me, once again, that words have power, and what we say often has an unexpected ripple effect.

     
  • At Dec 13, 2008 12:32:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    << Xan, is that you? >>

    I am emphatically not Xan. Stretch your imagination beyond what you think you know.

     
  • At Dec 13, 2008 1:16:00 AM, Anonymous Belinda said…

    Yet another (mostly) self taught sewist. I learnt to sew on my dad's old machine (my mum does buttons... barely) which he purchased in second hand in the early 70's for the sole purpose of sewing novelty ties in order to meet dress codes at co-ed 'socials.' (think foot wide polyester, extremely bright red and purple paisley corduroy and/or lace. those were the kind of ties my dad created.)

    so as someone who learned to sew on a machine predispositioned for smart-aleck-ness, i say 'pooh pooh to you, Xan.'

    (also, this is coming from someone who sewed in a length of bias tape in a contrast colour right down the middle of her new dress because she didn't have enough time to do button-holes. AND there was smiling fruits on said dress. and pockets too.)

    -Belinda

    ooh! p.s. I was in a fabric store today and saw some clearance quilting cotton with little blue roses on it! and right away thought of you, Erin. Then i thought of me, and 'shirtdress, big skirt...'

     
  • At Dec 13, 2008 6:17:00 AM, Blogger Linda said…

    Bravo!

     
  • At Dec 13, 2008 3:13:00 PM, Blogger oracle said…

    La Belladonna,

    I’m very glad that my message to you hit the spot.

    I just loved reading your little essay above, and especially enjoyed the comments you made ot the other blog. I laughed through every bit of them, and read them out loud to a friend, who also enjoyed them thoroughly. I’d already told this friend about what was going on in Erin’s blog reagrding the letter from Xan. After I read her your entire comment, she had this to say, and also said I could offer it as an entry to this blog if I wanted to. My friend is a professor of sociology.

    “Some people who use online communication do not factor in that the only thing that a reader of their message has available is their words. Whereas, there is a great tendency in online communication for people to engage in it as though they’re in a conversation. They’re unaware that they don’t have the tools available that they have in a face to face conversation, or even a life voice conversation, to convey the intention with which they delivery their words. So that absence of being able to provide people with subtle cues leave their message embedded only in the worlds on the page — or on the screen. So, it is easy for someone to receive their words as hurtful, cruel, pompous, whatever; when the person sending them didn’t intend them that way and is often very shocked when they’re taken that way. Emoticons have been a tool that people have begun to take up to try to communicate something about their intention. But emoticons are pretty one-dimensional, and they can’t accomplish what people accomplish in face to face talk.

    That point was with respect to La Belladonna’s reflections on Xan’s message, and how it came across to her as mean. It may have been mean, and may not have been mean. But Xan failed to take into account how it could be read, if she didn’t mean it to be mean.

    Regarding La Belladonna’s mini-essay to the Nice GuysTM, and its being misread as bullying, that my sociologist friend who teaches university level students says that it has struck her that with the emphasis on visual communication and the de-emphasis on textual communication that accompanies this kind of communication technology, young people are not learning the difference between different tonalities in writing. They can’t distinguish the style of a prescriptive or a descriptive text from one of irony and satire, and they’re very inclined to read literally, as though all that there is to get are the words. So in this case, it’s the reader that is not skilled at picking out the signs that tell them that someone is being satirical or ironic.”

     
  • At Dec 13, 2008 3:17:00 PM, Blogger oracle said…

    Obviously my previous comment needed a bit of editing. Sorry, folks! Hope it comes across clearly enough.

    "delivery" should be "deliver".

    Last paragraph should lose a "that" and read, "…and its being misread as bullying, my friend who teaches university level students …"

     
  • At Dec 13, 2008 3:19:00 PM, Blogger Sara said…

    Erin, reading this post and all the supportive comments make me teary-eyed with happiness that there are sewers like you that inhabit this planet.

    I love your blog and will always read it. :D

    P.S. LaBellaDonna, I heart you too. :)

     
  • At Dec 14, 2008 6:57:00 PM, Anonymous Jamie said…

    That dress was simply gorgeous! I read you every day, Erin, because you are so much like me: you love to sew, you love words, and you are all about being unique and fun, not taking yourself too seriously, which Xan obviously does. If she hates people who work outside the lines, than she would hate me: I've made a skeleton-print shirtdress, a charm skirt (like a charm bracelet, but infinitely cooler- tacky plastic charms stuck all over the world's most boring blue cargo skirt), and a bannana-print cotton corset top. I imagine she also deeply disapproves of Theirry Mugler, Jean-Paul Gautlier, and Elsa Schiaparelli. What an infintely pretentious person- those gut-wrenching pangs are doubtless from inhaling too much air while scoffing at others and overproduction of bile as she thinks of those awful people who dare to be *gasp, faint* different from her.

     
  • At Dec 15, 2008 12:11:00 AM, Anonymous CLF said…

    A perfect example of the echo chamber that is the blogging world. The safe bubble of the blog is akin to kindergarten, where you get nothing but encouragement and praise regardless of your output. Anyone who offers criticism is the boogeyman, of course.

    I'm with Xan on this one. I've been horrified time after time at some of the finished projects I've seen here. Inappropriate use of fabrics, mismatched patterns, waistline seams that don't meet--which means the dress will never, ever hang properly on the wearer. (In fact, a while back there was a green dress photo posted here that I was convinced Erin had put up as a litmus test for sycophants. Sure enough, it garnered raves.)

    As hard as it may have been to read, Xan's comment was right on the money. And no, it's not about discouraging people from taking up sewing. These mistakes are common among new sewers. And they are expected mistakes. It's not about being a "snob." It's not about being against experimental sewing. (Goodness gracious! Check out Xan's amazing experimental work. It's amazing.)

    It's about NOT GROWING or MATURING in one's sewing skills and treating the fabric and pattern with respect. Sewing is not brain surgery. ANYONE can do it and do it well--all it takes is a little care and time. For those us who enjoy the art and craft of sewing it can be "gutwrenching" (though I wouldn't use that word myself) to see such output from someone who should know better by now.

    It's time somebody finally said it, so I'm glad Xan wrote what she did, though it's clearly fallen on deaf ears.

     
  • At Dec 15, 2008 7:18:00 AM, Blogger Erin said…

    CLF, it's okay if you don't like my sewing. Heck, I don't care if anyone but me likes my clothes. (Would I wear the colors, patterns, and yes, inappropriate fabrics that I do if I did?) But I think you're missing the point -- you may think that Xan's comment wasn't about "discouraging people from taking up sewing," but that's the effect it has. When you think that there's a cadre of censorious experts out there who will be tut-tutting every error, no matter how small, it has the effect of making MANY people not want to start sewing.

    Your standards differ. We get it. But there's room for everyone in the sewing world, including screw-ups like me who insist on using the wrong fabric and occasionally are too lazy to rip something out to move the waist seam 1/4 inch.

    All I can say is, there are plenty of other places on the internet to read about sewing (including Xan's blog) ... I certainly don't have a monopoly, nor do I want one!

     
  • At Dec 15, 2008 10:27:00 AM, Blogger A Soldier's Girl said…

    As hard as it may have been to read, Xan's comment was right on the money. And no, it's not about discouraging people from taking up sewing. These mistakes are common among new sewers. And they are expected mistakes. It's not about being a "snob." It's not about being against experimental sewing. (Goodness gracious! Check out Xan's amazing experimental work. It's amazing.)

    CLF- Xan's comments were mean and they used hyperbole to convey the depths of her "disgust" at someone doing something she wouldn't ever stoop to.

    If you can't see how that would discourage beginning sewers to see someone who has a great deal more experience, and the guts to put what she makes on the internet for random people to be "horrified" over, then you're as blind as she is.

    I enjoy Erin's stuff because she reminds me that perfect can be the enemy of good, and that sometimes, even when things don't turn out how you envisioned them, you can still learn *something* and that *IS* maturing as a sewer, despite your dismissiveness.

    Thank God you don't see what I have to audacity to sew! Hand-sewn seams that aren't perfect, and patterns that don't always line up exactly. You'd drop dead from sheer upset.

     
  • At Dec 15, 2008 1:15:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    CLF, well. I don't know what to say. Erin said it well. The crux of the matter is that she makes stuff for HERSELF to wear, not to sell. Does it matter what it looks like if she is happy with it? I expect you shudder with distain whenever you see someone in clothes from Primark or some other cheap shop?

     
  • At Dec 15, 2008 1:16:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Perfection is unattainable. Leave it to rest.

     
  • At Dec 15, 2008 1:16:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Perfection is unattainable. Leave it to rest.

     
  • At Dec 15, 2008 1:25:00 PM, Blogger LibrariAnon said…

    There are ways to give criticism so that you both encourage and respectfully instruct, and there are ways to give criticism so that you belittle and hurt. Your criticisms should match your intentions.

    Perhaps people should be given more respect than patterns and fabric.

     
  • At Dec 15, 2008 3:24:00 PM, Blogger Cookie said…

    << There are ways to give criticism so that you both encourage and respectfully instruct, and there are ways to give criticism so that you belittle and hurt. Your criticisms should match your intentions. Perhaps people should be given more respect than patterns and fabric. >>

    Thank you for putting that so perfectly, LibrariAnon :)

     
  • At Dec 15, 2008 3:30:00 PM, Blogger Jonquil said…

    "I've been horrified time after time at some of the finished projects I've seen here. Inappropriate use of fabrics ... It's about NOT GROWING or MATURING in one's sewing skills and treating the fabric and pattern with respect."

    Here's the thing. There are blogs about exquisite and careful sewing -- TheSewingDivas comes to mind. Erin does not, has never, claimed to be one of those blogs. Her blog is about dresses. Dresses she's made, vintage dresses she admires, dresses her readers have made; no promise of exquisite workmanship.

    You are choosing to be horrified by coming here. It's as if you went to the local diner and were outraged that they precooked the hamburgers and slapped them on the broiler. If you don't like diner food, don't go to the diner.

    Me, I like Erin's wholehearted embrace of cloth, the world, and of sewing; she throws herself face forward into whatever she does. If she occasionally faceplants, well, it reminds me of myself.

    It's okay to be an amateur. It's okay not to *care* about taking it to the next level. And it's okay to cheerfully blog about what makes you happy and what you love.

     
  • At Dec 16, 2008 11:32:00 AM, Anonymous La BellaDonna said…

    LibrariAnon, thank you. "Perhaps people should be given more respect than patterns and fabric." That pretty much sums up my attitude towards people AND sewing.

    I taught myself to sew when I was six. This puts forty-five (FORTY. FIVE!) years of sewing under my belt. What does this mean? It means I sew better than some people, and not as well as others. I choose to believe that when people compliment someone else's work, they mean it. Someone writes in that she loves a dress that Erin made? Maybe she did. Maybe it's much more complex than something she's ever tried. If I look at the same dress, and the waistline seam jars me, I compliment the colour. Or the fabric choice. Or the print. Or the bravery of the vision. There's almost always something to compliment, even if it doesn't happen to be the sewing technique itself. And while Xan certainly has made some lovely things, she's also produced some garments which I consider not entirely successful. The fact that I don't write to her to point it out doesn't make me "a sycophant"; according to the way I was brought up, it makes me "polite". It's a subset of "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything." I can see for myself how the dress is made, and don't require someone else to point out any flaws it may have. Of course, if someone asks me for tips on how to better or more easily line up patterns in the fabric, then I'm off and running, happy to share what I have to share.

    Why is it wrong to have a safe bubble where people can feel free to experiment? Erin shares the museum specimens with us as well as her own work; we're capable of seeing the difference. There are people who come here who are willing to try things they never thought they could do because of Erin's encouragement. I've offered some very functional tips, myself, in the past; the folks who don't care for them are free not to use them, and to share their own tips instead.

    *I'd like to take a moment here to point out that a good many of the gowns churned out hastily under the aegis of Charles Worth, the "Father of Modern Haute Couture", have been described as ... not very well sewn. Sashes cover up clumsy waistline seams, etc. If it was good enough for Worth, why shouldn't it be good enough for Erin?

    There are plenty of other wonderful blogs that emphasize perfection; this blog is more about joy. Joy in doing, joy in sharing, joy in learning, joy in experimenging, joy in falling flat on your face. The great thing about the internet is that a simple click of a mouse will take you to where you're most comfortable.

    Sara, believe me, it's appreciated.

    Oracle, once I realized after the first post or two, that at least one poster was determined to take anything and everything I wrote as badly as possible, I stopped responding; stopped reading the comments, even. Will I make myself nuts if I go back and have a look? Ugh, or find out someone posted under my name? Once I realized that the one poster assumed he knew everything he needed to about me from my name, I knew that it was hopeless.

    So I came here for some joy instead. ;)

     
  • At Dec 16, 2008 4:50:00 PM, Blogger LibrariAnon said…

    No problem, Cookie and La BellaDonna. I'm glad to be part of the commenting community here, and and glad to help make it a good place to be.

    La BellaDonna--at the risk of sounding like a sycophant, do you have or have you ever considered writing your own blog? I think you have a wonderful perspective, and I am one of those people who loves your tips.

     
  • At Dec 16, 2008 7:08:00 PM, Blogger oracle said…

    Joy. It's the good stuff.

     
  • At Dec 17, 2008 9:45:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I've read this in amazement - what a fuss! Xan has an opinion - albeit a very waspish one - about Erins dress. Erin replied (she is entitled to, it's HER blog) and there is uproar about HER having an opinion about Xan's comment? Xan, CLF and various 'Anon's', if you don't want people to find you lemon-sucking wasps, don't write such drivvel?!!
    Critisism is critisism, unless asked for and given constructively.
    Praise the good, turn a blind eye to the bad UNLESS an opinion has been asked for AND you can be helpful in your critique, not nasty.

     
  • At Dec 17, 2008 1:47:00 PM, Anonymous La BellaDonna said…

    LibrariAnon, thank you! I'm glad you enjoy them. I'm not in a position to maintain a blog of my own right now, so I leave my eggs in the nests of others. Erin is kind enough to give me room to play here, and that's all there is for now: a comment here, a comment there, an occasional guest post.

    In the future, though, I would very much like to, and I will certainly let you know when that happens! :)

     
  • At Dec 17, 2008 7:38:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Now I have a question for Xan, what is the 'correct way'? Because in my years of sewing (16, I'm 21) which isn't as many as some of you, I have come across many different ways that people teach as the 'correct way'. Heck, I have learned and used two different 'correct' ways in two different fashion departments at different schools in the past few years, on top of the way I grew up using, and the way at one place that I work, and another at a different work place. Which is correct?

    Anywho, I really life the dress and didn't even notice that the pattern didn't match up until it was mentioned. I really like the dress.

    Things to now ponder at work (where the is sewing involved): What is the 'correct way' to sew? What does 'treating the fabric and pattern correctly' mean? Does it mean no experimenting and then not being able to learn and grow from the mistakes that would have been made from it? If we were all to do those things going back through history, what exactally would we be wearing today?

     
  • At Dec 18, 2008 3:29:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Re the previous post - I love it!!!!
    Though I suspect in her mind that the 'correct way' is whichever way Xan does it, I don't think she has an open mind to any other 'correct way'.
    Now, to my mind, the correct way is the way that gets it done. First rule is, will it work and then is it fit for purpose. However you reach that is up to whoever is doing the work!!

     
  • At Dec 18, 2008 5:35:00 AM, Blogger oracle said…

    La BellaDonna,

    Let me know too!

    All of us.

     
  • At Dec 19, 2008 3:20:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    What's funny for me is that I'm a tailor (apprenticeship and everything) and couture-level dressmaker (thanks Grandma! she worked for the best in Paris)--no longer a pro, but I still keep up. And I don't care if most people don't sew at this level. So what. I applaud anyone who wants to improve their skills to the level they feel comfortable with, but I really don't spend a lot of time worrying about it or being disgusted and disturbed by their efforts. I also think you learn by doing-- maybe you learn what is "wrong" only by trying it (and then you can learn to improvise from there) instead of blindly believing someone else.

     
  • At Dec 22, 2008 8:27:00 PM, Blogger The J said…

    I think the skill of sewing is like any other skill (say woodworking or writing) - there is A LOT to learn in the journey to being a master, and not everyone wants to follow that journey. Yes, a bookshelf can look stunning with dovetailed joints and exquisitely carved adornments, but what if "holds together and keeps the books off the floor" is all you want? Yes, an expert narrative can keep one enthralled time and time again, but what if you just want to tell a quick story to a friend? Or what if you learn how to swing a hammer, and then are much happier with a pile of found materials, banging away and seeing how many crazy things you can come up with rather than following the traditional path of a carpenter? What if you'd rather sit with the 5 year olds and print haphazard letters with crayons vs. the next epic poem?

    Part of me loves the Knowledge, so I will at times devour the Sewing Divas and some of the very instructional posts over at Stitcher's Guild. I do like trying out new skills like welt pockets or creating linings. But when it comes down to brass tacks, the most fun I ever have is taking something crazy, like bits of tossed off clothing, and see if I can piece it together into something Great. Usually I have to break quite a few Rules to get there. At least half the time it turns into disaster. But that's what makes it exciting.

    So I can see the viewpoint, if not the expression, which aches when taking another step on the traditional path of learning could elevate the project in their view (I think so many times with my own projects - if I only had.... I'd like this piece so much better). But my actions show that I land firmly on the "jump in head first and d@@# the consequences" and "if you can't see the error 10 feet away from a galloping horse, it doesn't matter". I do firmly believe in getting a read on the goals of the person in question before offering "advice" - and I don't remember Erin ever bemoaning a lack of couture-level sewing skills or commenting on how much time she had and how she loved to baby each project to perfection. So why would anyone ask her to change *her wardrobe* based on *their sewing goals*? It's like clutching your heart and telling the weekend handyman to throw out that bookshelf because the corners don't perfectly line up.

    Luckily, I don't think Erin is about to give up on this sewing thing because someone else put high standards out there as the only goal to meet. I really hope beginning sewers out there don't lose heart either. I also hope that those who do want to learn how to create underpinnings and structure to a dress so that it falls just so, don't stop at sewing straight lines and say "I can't get it like the professionals". Choose your goals, find your teachers, ignore the critics that don't get your vision ;).

     
  • At Dec 24, 2008 9:31:00 AM, Anonymous Dr. BC said…

    As someone who is only starting to sew, comments like Xan's are unhelpful to say the least. And not a very good idea from a business point of view-- I liked a bunch of the patterns on her site, and probably would have bought a few if it hadn't been for her bad attitude towards potential customers. I put a few in a cart, but the more I thought about her comment, the more I thought that those were dollars I didn't need to spend-- or could spend someplace where I wouldn't potentially be excoriated for using what I'd bought later. In short, she lost a sale, but got to keep her condescension.

    Besides, I quite *liked* your take on the dress, and how is one to discover new things-- or just practice?-- if they don't try them out?

     
  • At Dec 29, 2008 11:55:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    So posting again ( I am Anonymous from Dec 17th at 7:38 pm). I have come to one conclusion from my ponderings. That we would be wearing.....nothing. Or togas. And no offence to anyone, but I don't need to see any more naked people. I see enough of them as it is at one of my jobs (dresser backstage at shows).

    Another thing I though about was the fact that after seeing Susan Hilferty speak about how she created the concepts for the costumes for 'Wicked", none of it could have been done if she had treated the patterns and fabric with respect. And after getting to see up close (and touch) some of the costumes, I'm glad she didn't give them that 'respect' and experimented. And I'm glad so many other designers have too. As nice as togas could be in warm weather, freezing might be a small problem.

    And like Dr. BC, I decided not to order patterns from her due to her attitude. Sorry, but treating one person with lack of respect does damage your business.

    PS: I learned another 'correct' way to sew where I volunteer restoring vintage garments.

    And now I am off to do some things that are probably not correct to see if I can create a tree costume, including, but not limited to using a cheese grater on fabric, using Crystle gel on the fabric, the seeing if sticking some fabric in the blender will give an interesting distressed effect. My boss suggested the last one and I just think it could be interesting.

     

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