A Rejoinder and Statement of Principles
I don't usually take the time to reply to negative comments that are left on this blog -- why encourage people who are spoiling for a fight? I'm not bothered by their criticism, for the most part (and if it's justified I do try to take it to heart, however unpleasant it may be to do so!). But most of the time replying to negative comments falls under the heading "Never wrestle with a pig. You get dirty and only the pig enjoys it."
However, there have been a few comments on a recent post which I feel I need to respond to, if only for clarification. A commenter, mainly anonymous, but also signing one comment "7/10 split", suggested that I am a "professional what? writer/ advertisers? whose goal is to sell things", and also a "shill."
For the record: I am not a "professional advertiser". I am a writer, but of a very particular kind.
The same commenter (who may be this blogger) also suggested that I don't sew the dresses that I post here. If you would like to see pictures of ME in the dresses I have sewn (and I admit, I don't often post pictures of myself here because, all things considered, I had a better time in labor -- and I didn't have an epidural! -- than I do having my picture taken) you can see them in five out of the first six pictures here.
(The dresses shown in that link include a Duro, the pink jellybean dress, the blogiversary dress, the stunt Valentine's Dress, and the yellow-bird dress.)
Whether you enjoy my posts or not, I would like to state unequivocally that I do NOT accept money to post about any particular dress, fabric, pattern, pair of shoes, etc. There is NO payola or kickback scheme in effect on this blog.
For book reviews, I am, as is common practice in publishing, often provided with free copies of the book in question, to review or to give away.
The advertisers on the right-hand side are just that: advertisers. They have no influence on content, and I do *not* ask them for free stuff.
I accept pictorial ads ONLY from people who sell patterns, fabric, or vintage clothes, or are otherwise related to sewing. I must approve the ad before it will run. My ad rates are very low; $25/month (with a minimum three-month commitment, because I'm lazy and don't want to be bothered putting up and taking down ads all the time). I also participate in Google's AdSense program, which are the boxed text ads you see on the page, and in the Amazon Associates program, which gives me a commission on books purchased by Amazon customers who clicked on links to books from this blog. (To give you an idea of the revenue from those two sources; my last "payment" from Amazon was a $35 gift certificate which I used ... to buy more sewing books. Google pays every two months or so; I think my last check from them was in the $125 range.)
I have set up "Dress a Day Inc" as a LLC company, so that, if I say something libelous and am sued, the company will be the target of any lawsuit (and not my family). This means I file taxes on all the income from this blog -- if there is any, after paying hosting fees to my internet service provider.
As for the comments about the sweater in question, I am doing a little research on the subject; the commenter suggested that the sweater probably cost less than $1 to make, and that all the labor involved was sweatshop labor in Asia. I don't think that's right, given that the cost of a pound of even low-grade cotton is about .71¢ -- that's a pound of unspun cotton. From what I can tell, the spinning of one pound of raw cotton fiber produces 840 yards of yarn. That seems to be on the low end of the number of yards you'd need for a sweater -- any knitters want to jump in here? -- and the sweater I posted about was 14 gauge, which is a fairly fine knit). So, at least .71¢ in raw materials, plus the spinning cost, plus the fashioning cost, plus the cost of the buttons -- I think it would be hard to get the raw goods cost of this garment under $1. Even leaving aside that the garment is made in China (I called and asked) -- there's the cost of the coming up with the design, a job almost certainly done by an American at American wages. (J.Crew employs about 7600 people.) The same commenter said that the sweater I linked to could be found in discount stores for under $20; if, in fact, that is the case -- why haven't I found it there? It's not like I haven't been looking! Do you factor the salary of the designer into the cost of the sweater? If not, why not? Do you factor in the jobs of the catalog writers (Americans), shop employees (American and for the stores in Japan, Japanese)? The distribution center employees (in Virginia and North Carolina)? The UPS guy who will bring it to me? (Hi Luis!) The short answer, it seems to me, is that a narrow focus on manufacturing jobs is not helpful; if the company can't manufacture goods at a reasonable price, then all those other jobs I mentioned above -- they go away, too. Despite conjecture about how much of the price of the sweater is pure profit, large retail chains have VERY small profit margins -- one source puts it at 2%. Another source (from 1998!) puts the apparel profit margin at 5.4% ... and given the rising costs of commodities since 1998, I can't imagine that margin has gone up.
I apologize for such a long and tedious post, without even any pretty pictures to enliven it; I promise not to make a habit of this kind of thing. However, I do treasure the trust you place in me by visiting this blog, leaving comments, and contributing to a little oasis of dress-loving camaraderie online, and I didn't want to give credence to accusations of shilling, payola, and "blogging under false pretenses" by letting them go by in silence.
(Comments of the kind "all her taste is in her mouth," "this is soooooo ugly lol", and "i cant believe u wear this!" will still be ignored. De gustibus, etc.)
If you ever have any questions about me or this blog, well, my email address is on the right-hand side, towards the bottom. I do try to answer all the email I receive.
However, there have been a few comments on a recent post which I feel I need to respond to, if only for clarification. A commenter, mainly anonymous, but also signing one comment "7/10 split", suggested that I am a "professional what? writer/ advertisers? whose goal is to sell things", and also a "shill."
For the record: I am not a "professional advertiser". I am a writer, but of a very particular kind.
The same commenter (who may be this blogger) also suggested that I don't sew the dresses that I post here. If you would like to see pictures of ME in the dresses I have sewn (and I admit, I don't often post pictures of myself here because, all things considered, I had a better time in labor -- and I didn't have an epidural! -- than I do having my picture taken) you can see them in five out of the first six pictures here.
(The dresses shown in that link include a Duro, the pink jellybean dress, the blogiversary dress, the stunt Valentine's Dress, and the yellow-bird dress.)
Whether you enjoy my posts or not, I would like to state unequivocally that I do NOT accept money to post about any particular dress, fabric, pattern, pair of shoes, etc. There is NO payola or kickback scheme in effect on this blog.
For book reviews, I am, as is common practice in publishing, often provided with free copies of the book in question, to review or to give away.
The advertisers on the right-hand side are just that: advertisers. They have no influence on content, and I do *not* ask them for free stuff.
I accept pictorial ads ONLY from people who sell patterns, fabric, or vintage clothes, or are otherwise related to sewing. I must approve the ad before it will run. My ad rates are very low; $25/month (with a minimum three-month commitment, because I'm lazy and don't want to be bothered putting up and taking down ads all the time). I also participate in Google's AdSense program, which are the boxed text ads you see on the page, and in the Amazon Associates program, which gives me a commission on books purchased by Amazon customers who clicked on links to books from this blog. (To give you an idea of the revenue from those two sources; my last "payment" from Amazon was a $35 gift certificate which I used ... to buy more sewing books. Google pays every two months or so; I think my last check from them was in the $125 range.)
I have set up "Dress a Day Inc" as a LLC company, so that, if I say something libelous and am sued, the company will be the target of any lawsuit (and not my family). This means I file taxes on all the income from this blog -- if there is any, after paying hosting fees to my internet service provider.
As for the comments about the sweater in question, I am doing a little research on the subject; the commenter suggested that the sweater probably cost less than $1 to make, and that all the labor involved was sweatshop labor in Asia. I don't think that's right, given that the cost of a pound of even low-grade cotton is about .71¢ -- that's a pound of unspun cotton. From what I can tell, the spinning of one pound of raw cotton fiber produces 840 yards of yarn. That seems to be on the low end of the number of yards you'd need for a sweater -- any knitters want to jump in here? -- and the sweater I posted about was 14 gauge, which is a fairly fine knit). So, at least .71¢ in raw materials, plus the spinning cost, plus the fashioning cost, plus the cost of the buttons -- I think it would be hard to get the raw goods cost of this garment under $1. Even leaving aside that the garment is made in China (I called and asked) -- there's the cost of the coming up with the design, a job almost certainly done by an American at American wages. (J.Crew employs about 7600 people.) The same commenter said that the sweater I linked to could be found in discount stores for under $20; if, in fact, that is the case -- why haven't I found it there? It's not like I haven't been looking! Do you factor the salary of the designer into the cost of the sweater? If not, why not? Do you factor in the jobs of the catalog writers (Americans), shop employees (American and for the stores in Japan, Japanese)? The distribution center employees (in Virginia and North Carolina)? The UPS guy who will bring it to me? (Hi Luis!) The short answer, it seems to me, is that a narrow focus on manufacturing jobs is not helpful; if the company can't manufacture goods at a reasonable price, then all those other jobs I mentioned above -- they go away, too. Despite conjecture about how much of the price of the sweater is pure profit, large retail chains have VERY small profit margins -- one source puts it at 2%. Another source (from 1998!) puts the apparel profit margin at 5.4% ... and given the rising costs of commodities since 1998, I can't imagine that margin has gone up.
I apologize for such a long and tedious post, without even any pretty pictures to enliven it; I promise not to make a habit of this kind of thing. However, I do treasure the trust you place in me by visiting this blog, leaving comments, and contributing to a little oasis of dress-loving camaraderie online, and I didn't want to give credence to accusations of shilling, payola, and "blogging under false pretenses" by letting them go by in silence.
(Comments of the kind "all her taste is in her mouth," "this is soooooo ugly lol", and "i cant believe u wear this!" will still be ignored. De gustibus, etc.)
If you ever have any questions about me or this blog, well, my email address is on the right-hand side, towards the bottom. I do try to answer all the email I receive.
Labels: ads, commerce, rejoinders
217 Comments:
At May 15, 2008 9:29:00 AM,
Elles Niche said…
You go girl! People like that aren't worth the frustration - they can't seem to see the whole picture. Sorry you have to deal with that. I love reading your blog and I am greatly anticipating the delivery of my new 'Brown Wiggle Dress'. Keep doing what you do! Even with the economy the way it is...It is always a welcome site to read your blog!
At May 15, 2008 9:31:00 AM,
Zoltar Panaflex said…
The only comment I have to this well-written post is this:
WHERE do I sign up to be a charter member of the "We Love Erin" Fan Club?
Surely I'm not the only one who gets up way too early, cracks open my computer, ignores the scary news, and opens "Dress-a-Day" first and foremost?
At May 15, 2008 9:45:00 AM,
Anita Penny Hodgson said…
I am totally stunned by this dreadful person's accusations and/or comments.. Erin, you are a joy to the internet community and I agree with others, you are the way we start the morning... You are educational and interesting and I never miss a day! Anita
At May 15, 2008 9:46:00 AM,
Anonymous said…
I went and read the blog of the 7/10 split blogger. Talk about a sad/pessimistic outlook on life.
Go buy more sweaters and forget about this pathetic person.
~Funky Kim
funkykim@comcast.net
(i have blogger issues and cannot sign in)
At May 15, 2008 9:46:00 AM,
Teresa said…
I'll be the second charter member. Why do folks bother to read a blog if they don't enjoy it? Why waste that time? Or didn't their mother ever tell them that if they didn't have anything good to say then they should just BE QUIET!!!
Erin, I read your blog every morning and thoroughly enjoy it. I am an entrenched jeans and t-shirts kinda person but I enjoy the pictures, your writing is superb, and sewing is my hobby. Keep up the great work. Some of us out here can't start the morning without a bit of Dress a Day to brighten the morning.
Many thanks,
Teresa
At May 15, 2008 9:50:00 AM,
sarajane said…
Oh for Pete's sake (thinking something stronger...) If you don't like the content, DON'T READ THE BLOG!
I don't particularly care for short sleeved sweaters, but I don't have my undies in a wad over it. It's not like Erin is forcing everyone to exclusively buy J Crew Sweaters. Get over yourself, Mr or Ms. Pissy Poster - and get a life! (thank you for reading, I feel better now).
I would also like to join the "We Love Erin" Fan Club.
At May 15, 2008 9:50:00 AM,
7/10 split said…
What I said is that you could find a short sleeved cotton sweater for under $20. Go to Chadwicks, Clearance, Item 2108-32648-1264.
You will see a very nice short sleeved cotton sweater at a price of $9.99. Additionally, if you search Google for Chadwicks coupons, you can probably get the sweater even cheaper than that.
You might argue that the quality is not comparable, but I have already explained that it is comparable, and currently it is $55cheaper than J Crew's sweater.
It is more than 80% cheaper than J Crew's sweater. Just because you, Erin, can not locate an item, this does not mean that the item does not exist. And, if Chadwicks has a cotton sweater, you can be sure that there are many other places besides that have a cotton sweater. And I'd be willing to bet that the majority are far lower in price than $65. As I said, if J Crew doesn't get hip to the prices that our current economy can bear, those 7,600 people are going to join the other 20% of unemployed Americans who can't even afford Chadwick's prices.
At May 15, 2008 9:51:00 AM,
Ellie Finlay said…
What a wonderful post. You obviously are a person of considerable integrity. Well done.
I absolutely LOVE your site and I come here every day.
At May 15, 2008 9:55:00 AM,
lorrwill said…
I still love you.
I ignored the sweatshop stuff on the other post because I did not feel that A Dress A Day is the correct place for that discussion.
Further, there were so many holes in several points of logic that I started to feel that it was not all an honest discourse on economics and human rights but little more than troll fodder.
So I stayed out of it.
And yes, I am one of those people who is trying to make all of her own clothes and/or buy non-sweatshop goods because I do have strong feelings on the subject. However, I refuse to preach about it and covert the masses and all that as I find that sort of thing to be in the poorest of taste.
LONG LIVE A DRESS A DAY!
LONG LIVE THE FASHION REBEL ALLIANCE!
At May 15, 2008 9:59:00 AM,
Erin said…
7/10 Split, thanks for the link.
Unfortunately, that's not a comparable sweater.
The J.Crew sweater has rib-knit trim at the sleeve and waist; the Chadwick's sweater does not -- it is completely ribbed.
The Chadwick's sweater is v-neck; the J.Crew sweater is jewel-necked.
The Chadwick's sweater comes in eight colors, mostly pastels; the J.Crew sweater comes in twelve colors, mostly brights.
These may sound like petty differences to you, but I am very, very picky about my sweaters; if I am going to spend $9 or $65, it is going to be for exactly what I want -- anything else is a waste of money, because if it's not just right, I won't wear it.
At May 15, 2008 10:00:00 AM,
melissapedsrn said…
Erin...Of all the ridiculous...I just don't even have the words. I will never understand why people have to be so meanspirited. If that person wants something to rant about,, how about world hunger, war, abused women and children,, childhood cancer or any other of the millions of things one could crusade against...
This person is not worth your time..or mine. Done deal
Love you, love your blog, you are a postive light in a very negative world. So there.
Melissa
At May 15, 2008 10:08:00 AM,
Catherine said…
Knitter here - for that fine of a gauge, I estimate you would need considerably more yarn than that - probably almost double. A normal sweater often takes 1000 yards.
At May 15, 2008 10:09:00 AM,
Catherine said…
PS. The anonymous commenter is kind of an ass. I love your blog.
At May 15, 2008 10:12:00 AM,
Deirdre said…
Erin!
You are in Wikipedia! That's soooo cool.
I want to be in Wikipedia. I figure I can get listed as "totally anonymous American."
As for the rest of it, good on you for responding. It takes a strong character to know when to be quiet, but a stronger character to know when, and why and how, to speak up.
At May 15, 2008 10:12:00 AM,
7/10 split said…
And, why would you think that the design had to be originated in America? Don't you know that all of our engineering jobs are gone along with our manufacturing jobs. Don't you think an Indian or an Asian can engineer or design just as well as an American? If you don't have any factories, you don't need any engineers/designers.
And, if you are a real person, and if you aren't being paid to advertise (and I don't believe your claims to the contrary) then the only conclusion I can draw is that you are very out of touch with the actual economic condition of the vast majority of Americans. Because I'm speculating that there are very, very few who would be willing to pay $65 for a short sleeved cotton sweater. And, the vast majority would find that price to be obscene. In fact, I'm going to speculate that if that sweater is comparably priced to J Crew's other merchandise, they won't be in business for long.
And as for the rest of you, who are probably all the same person, I have already spoken to the only response you can come up with: "you don't have to...and why don't you go away."
At May 15, 2008 10:13:00 AM,
Catherine said…
I'm awfully sorry for posting 3 comments, but I just had to say this - why does Anonymous think you posted that affecting and heartfelt tribute after your father died? To sell more dresses that you didn't make? Jesus!
At May 15, 2008 10:13:00 AM,
Kristy said…
810 yards of yarn will yield a sweater if it's knit up at about 4 stitches per inch-- if it's 14 sts/inch, you'll need a lot more yarn than that! (Going on my sizing, 38B, size M/L)
I think that, sometimes, these petty anonymous commenters cannot find anyone to read their own blogs, so they attempt a hijacking of one that is more popular. I'm sorry that it had to be yours.
At May 15, 2008 10:18:00 AM,
Sharon said…
I really love your blog and enjoy reading it as the first blog each day. It would seem that their are a few readers of blogs that enjoy leaving negative comments all over blog land-I guess that is how they get their "jollies". What a sad life they must live-and they seem to be the same people on each of the blogs-re: confessions of a cf husband. If they get off on getting a reaction from people, I guess the best is to just go 'pffft' and then ignore them. I think that, in a way, they are secretly jealous of you! Speaking of that, I hope we get another "Secret Lives" soon, maybe on the dress from yesterday!
At May 15, 2008 10:19:00 AM,
Erin said…
7/10 Split:
If you don't believe that I'm a real person, I don't see any further value in arguing with you (not that there was all that much value to begin with). (But do I at least pass the Turing Test?)
At May 15, 2008 10:21:00 AM,
Megan said…
AMEN, sister!
At May 15, 2008 10:23:00 AM,
The Rotund said…
*boggle*
You know, I care about the ethics of shopping but to even pretend that the Chadwicks's sweater and the J. Crew sweater are the same is ridiculous. Alas, J. Crew does not clothe the fat, but I've ordered from Chadwicks and the quality, as well as the design, is not comparable.
While I'd love to see Erin talk about the ethics of shopping, if she were so inclined, there is no excuse for the rudeness displayed by annonymous/ 7/10 Split.
At May 15, 2008 10:24:00 AM,
cidell said…
There are many things to love about this post, but the BEST (because it's what I was thinking) is the bit on J. Crew. Stores, websites, designers, advertising ALL TAKE MONEY. It's like saying the dress I made for you only cost $50. There was my time and labor and my thought. You pay for that too.
At May 15, 2008 10:27:00 AM,
Deirdre said…
Also! I just read 7/10 splits comments (above). I bought three cardigans at the JCrew outlet store for $45 each. Then I went to Steinmart and found very similar cardigans, in the same colors, for $20 each. The Steinmart cardigans were thicker, to boot!
So I returned my JCrew cardigans and bought the Steinmart cardigans.
Sounds simple, right? Wrong! I've been looking for these sweaters for WEEKS. I looked at JC Penny, I looked at Sears, I looked at Kolhs, I looked at Target, I looked at Walmart, I looked at Dillards, I looked at Belks, I looked at Macys, I looked TJ Maxx, I looked at Marshalls, I looked at Nordstrom, I looked at Eddie Bauer, I looked at LL Bean, I looked at Land's End, I looked at Chicos, I looked at Geoffrey Bean, and I looked at Izod.
So when someone finds the Holy Grail of cardigan (and those of us who love cardigans will understand exactly what I mean) and posts the link for the world to see, it's like manna from heaven.
I think you've missed the point entirely, 7/10. The point isn't buying the cheapest clothing you can get your hands on. The point is FINDING the clothing you want to wear.
And for pointing all of us to a wearable, attractive cardigan that is remarkably difficult to locate, Erin gets my unreserved thanks.
At May 15, 2008 10:30:00 AM,
Sydnie said…
I *heart* Dress A Day!
I have plenty of thoughts on anonymous/7/10split... however, expressing those would just add to the number of bad things said on the internet, and he/she wouldn't pay attention anyway. It's unfortunate that he/she feels the need to spread his/her poopy attitude by encroaching on other people's happy places! :)
Erin, I do love your blog! I read it every day, I look forward to every post, I refer back to several of your posts, I share your posts with my mom... You are more inspiring than you know! Thanks for all you do!
At May 15, 2008 10:31:00 AM,
Deirdre said…
And finally, after reading both of 7/10's posts, I see that s/he is kind of out of touch with reality, so I for one am going to wish him/her well and let it go at that.
At May 15, 2008 10:31:00 AM,
Fiona said…
Hmm...all interesting stuff.
I can see many of the points of view here are valid: I have seen (and been horrified by) TV programmes about children sleeping in the same room where they hand-embroider fabric to be sold at enormous prices when made up as garments, I don't give a rat's whatsit about designer labels, I have donated clothes to and bought clothes from "thrift stores", I have made my own clothes and finally, I have been persuaded - after reading this site - to buy Liberty fabric from a seller on eBay to make into a fabulous gift for someone (can't say who, it's in the post and the recipient does not know yet!)
Where do I stand?
Well, I have my principles and my ideas but I don't argue well, so I'll keep all that to myself.
However, when my gift-garment is received I will send you a picture of it (and to the eBay seller you were kind enough to point out to me!)
:-)
At May 15, 2008 10:32:00 AM,
Theresa said…
7/10 split probably doesn't know what a Turing Test is. What I don't understand, if he/she disagrees with your blog, thinks we are one person...why is she wasting her/his breath hear. If you want to buy a $65 sweater and you can afford it...that's your perogative. I'm probably wrestling the pig right now... but I just can't saty quiet. You have been an inspiration to me as both a hobby sewist adn a writer. Thank you.
At May 15, 2008 10:33:00 AM,
Tara said…
There's no point arguing with someone who is determined to be obdurate (a very good word, no?). As you say, arguing with a pig etc. But I have to say that I've appreciated the thoughtful comments and your post for their thoroughness and logic. Your sincerity speaks for itself but I particularly appreciate the precision and directness in your argument.
As for your J.Crew sweater - if all of us only ever took the economic factors of each purchasing decision into account, wouldn't we end up dressed very much the same? And history has shown that social models, based on some utopian version of economic equality, seem to end up being more oppressive to the very people 'They' were trying liberate.
It's your sweater, if you can afford it - morally, ethically and economically. It's your choice to make.
Mao suit, anyone??
At May 15, 2008 10:35:00 AM,
Kristen said…
Forget Joss Whedon.
Erin is my master now.
At May 15, 2008 10:39:00 AM,
Su said…
Some people are just rude. Msotly, they're jealous of you & your talent!
Dress a Day is the first thing I look at most days, keep up your great work!
At May 15, 2008 10:41:00 AM,
jen said…
first i have to say i love the pig quote - seriously, i hope to use it sometime in the near future!
a lot of people don't realize what it takes to produce a garment. i sell patterns but when some people ask me how much it would cost (for them) to buy an actual item made from my patterns, they are floored. part of me does not blame them but the other part reminds me all that goes into the design and creation process, and that my time is valuable.
anyway, before i forget, thank you for the google pics. the most fun part for me was reading more about who you are and what you do, aside from writing the blog.
At May 15, 2008 10:43:00 AM,
Erica said…
Why are you still here, 7/10 split? I thought you weren't coming back?
At May 15, 2008 10:50:00 AM,
Anonymous said…
Love your blog Erin, keep it up!
To 7/10 split: Where do you think the Chadwicks sweater was produced? We are moving into a global society with all kinds of jobs dependent on jobs in other countries. It's the same kind of shift that happened when manufacturing moved from northeast America to the south. What line are you in? Can you say that you are not in a "global food chain" in your line of work. I doubt it if you look closely enough.
Finally there are plenty of foreign owned companies who provide jobs here. Check into some of those big names you see everyday and find out just where they are headquartered. As someone who works in the financial services industry I can assure you there are plenty. (And yes there are still people who can afford it.)
Jill
At May 15, 2008 10:50:00 AM,
MEW said…
I love you, Erin!
Were I to show all those comments on the third-world economics of cotton cardigans to my boyfriend (the Master's candidate in International Development), he would probably start to cry just from the stupid. So I won't show him. Not unless he annoys me, or something.
In conclusion... We love you, Erin! Never stop being you!
At May 15, 2008 10:52:00 AM,
Toiling Ant said…
Responding to 7/10's comment-
"Don't you know that all of our engineering jobs are gone along with our manufacturing jobs."
That's absolute bull CRAP. I'm a technical recruiter and there are at LEAST 25% more engineering jobs available in the US than trained talent available. There is offshoring, sure, but it's happening because we're not growing our own engineers here. The US is losing the competitive edge because there is a CRYING need for both engineers and designers in almost all technical fields.
ANYway. I just couldn't let that pass.
Erin, you have a lovely and inspiring site which I check every weekday without fail! Please keep it up!
At May 15, 2008 10:52:00 AM,
Nicole said…
Erin, I hope you know most of the people who visit this site love your blog and appreciate your posts.
At May 15, 2008 10:57:00 AM,
Just sayin.... said…
Re: 7/10 split's comment:
"Because I'm speculating that there are very, very few who would be willing to pay $65 for a short sleeved cotton sweater. And, the vast majority would find that price to be obscene. "
Maybe if 7/10 spent less time posting negative comments on blogs all day, she could get a better paying job an then it wouldn't seem so obscene. And now, I'm going to work because I saw a $65 sweater I really want. I'm going to go earn some money so I can buy it.
Someone had to say it.
At May 15, 2008 10:57:00 AM,
Mikhaela said…
Erin, I've never commented here before but just wanted to say I love your blog and think you're awesome.
Is there a reason you don't moderate your comments or have a comments policy prohibiting trolls? I had to start moderating my blog (granted, I do political cartoons, which attracts more trolls) after one troll repeatedly left disjointed rants that eventually became racist screeds.
Your blog is YOUR house, and you set the house rules. While you might choose to allow one comment by someone who disagrees with you, someone who repeatedly attacks you and claims you're not a real person deserves to be kicked out of the house.
You can also prohibit anonymous comments, too.
Finally, it is NOT obscene and BS to post about the fact that you are going to buy some fancy sweaters that suit your taste or that it is hard to find the perfect short-sleeved cardigan--speaking as a cardigan lover, it's DAMN hard! Even the Budget Fashionista will link to some more expensive items.
Personally, I am quite cheap, and buy a good portion of my clothes at thrift stores. Which frees me up to buy the occasional perfect item at retail price if it is an item I know I will wear repeatedly--cost per wear is hugely important. I have some cardigans that are cashmere that I paid $60 dollars for (on sale, of course) and I have worn them so many times in the last four years that their cost per wear must be something like 2 cents.
At May 15, 2008 11:00:00 AM,
Erin said…
Oh, I forgot -- I do have a comments policy, it's here:
http://www.dressaday.com/2007/02/everything-in-moderation.html
I just really don't get enough trolls to justify banning people. (They always come back as sock puppets, anyway.)
At May 15, 2008 11:01:00 AM,
cpeep said…
Good lord, it's not as if Erin is compelling us all to run out and buy a $65 sweater. It's her blog. She gets to talk about what she likes. My personal preference is for V necks with sleeves, that cost a bit less. Do I feel I need to tell Erin what SHE should wear? As we used to say, "Not."
At May 15, 2008 11:06:00 AM,
wundermary said…
I had to google Turing Test.
7/10 split appears to be struggling with the alienation that happens when you watch your hometown's economy dwindle and the culture along with it. It's not that I lack sympathy, this just isn't the forum to discuss it.
If this were all one person posting here, I'd say you know a heck of alot! I doubt that any one of us has the time or the inclination to run this many accounts in order to make this many comments.
Like most of you here, I check out this blog in the a.m., looking for a little inspirational tidbit before I move on to the serious matters of the day.
Thanks Erin, for providing this forum. If you were making more money from it, that wouldn't bother me. It is a fortunate person who can make a living persuing their passion.
At May 15, 2008 11:06:00 AM,
Anonymous said…
Oh, dear. I'll just add that 7/10's comments remind me of Grandpa Simpson (you know, from "The Simpsons"), who's always afraid/angry because everything's too fast and loud, and the kids play music he doesn't understand. Next he'll be telling us to get out of his yard, and that gas should be a nickel a gallon, like when he was young.
At May 15, 2008 11:08:00 AM,
Jennifer said…
Oh dear. This person is a troll. I am all about being green and avoiding sweatshop-made items, but let's have a bit of perspective here: this blog, correct me if I'm mistaken, is in large part about *making your own clothes*. That's about as far from sweatshop as you can get. (Unless you want to start growing, spinning and weaving your own cotton or linen--which is crazytown, really.) For all of the clothing you make for yourself, I think you're entitled to an off-the-rack cardigan once in a while. Please.
And as another knitter, I can attest to the fact that a sweater at that fine gauge is at least 2000 yards. Though finer gauge yarn will weigh less, I doubt the sweater would be less than a pound.
At May 15, 2008 11:08:00 AM,
tcarole said…
7/10 split, are you completely clueless about how Blogger works? Now, that you've figured out how to add your name, can you not see that there's just no way we could all be the same person? You can follow the links (non-anonymous users names are links) or our pictures (which are also links) in the comments to all our individual blogs and user accounts. Who would create all those accounts just to fool you???
Accusing us of being one person is preposterous. Are you a conspiracy theorist or something???
Seriously, that's most ridiculous. You lose more credibility every time you post.
For the record, one person's vote: I CAN afford a $65 sweater. I find J.Crew's quality pretty good. In other words, I don't need to buy a new sweater after 3 washings which is what happens when you pay $9.99 for a sweater. So, in the end, I'm spending my money more wisely because instead of buying throwaway Forever 21 crap, I'm buying clothes that will last, I'm investing.
At May 15, 2008 11:09:00 AM,
Chris said…
Hi Erin, hi everyone.
I don't comment often, but check in most days, and love the blog. It's been part of the motivation to get me out of my jeans and into more interesting things - including some home-made skirts and dresses in lovely Liberty prints now that it's finally warming up.
Any "regular" will know how genuine Erin is.
...so...
STEP AWAY FROM THE PIG everyone!
Chris x
At May 15, 2008 11:09:00 AM,
Feeder of the hungry beans said…
Erin, I'm so sorry you had to put up with that crap. I know it's hard to ignore it.
I've learned so much from your blog and am geeked to discover you're a lexicographer!
Enjoy your beautiful sweaters!
(Maybe you could get someone else to model your creations? Seeing dresses on real people instead of on a dummy really makes them come alive.)
At May 15, 2008 11:11:00 AM,
Rachelle said…
Anyone who actually READS your blog knows that you're not a shill. You like stuff, you write about it, end of story.
I read your blog because it's funny, and it's relevant to my interests, mainly vintage clothing and sewing. I also read your blog because it's an entertaining read, and I appreciate your sense of humor.
Those of us who read your blog regularly know you're not a big spender, and you've posted on more than one occasion that you love an item, but would never buy it because it's too expensive for what it is. That's hardly inducement to be called a shill.
I know you're not one, because I read the blogs of several writers who ARE shills, and frankly, I don't mind it. As long as the content entertains me, I consider the time well spent, even if the blogger IS trying to induce me to buy a spiral ham, or some incredibly expensive fabric.
If there was a blog out there whose content I didn't enjoy, I'd simply stop reading it. I certainly wouldn't be ridiculous enough to post a "Screw you, goodbye" comment. And then keep coming back.
Bottom line - negative comments won't keep me from reading your blog, and they won't keep your regular readers away.
At May 15, 2008 11:12:00 AM,
Lydia said…
I have never--and will never--understand trolls. What a strange, strange compulsion/hobby.
Erin, you know I'm 100% in your fan club, and while we don't always agree on all fashion options, I think you're swell.
*waives Erin Fan Club flag*
--Lydia
At May 15, 2008 11:15:00 AM,
a fan of both blogs said…
Looks to me like someone was fired from JCrew, and can't get past the anger.
Ignore the trolls - eventually, they'll get bored and go somewhere else to be jerks.
At May 15, 2008 11:25:00 AM,
Anonymous said…
Erin, the first thing I do at work
is open your site which brightens my day each morning.
Ignore the jerks - there will always be the nasty people in life who just want to crap on everyone -
it's plain jealousy.
You go girl!
At May 15, 2008 11:27:00 AM,
Madame C said…
Perhaps 7/10 split´s mum didn´t tell them that if you can´t think of anything nice to say not to say anything at all.
Erin I enjoy your sartorial style and your writing style. Through this blog I have re-discovered my sewing life and now am a member of a lovely sewing forum.
Thank you.
At May 15, 2008 11:32:00 AM,
Rachel said…
I'm a faithful reader here, but don't often (ever) comment. HOWEVER... I had to say good job. This was a very well-written post, honest, and to-the-point. :)
If they don't like your blog, they don't have to keep coming back!! :D
At May 15, 2008 11:33:00 AM,
Sara said…
Dear Erin,
Keep up your blog. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it!
I thank the day I found this blog by googling "wrap dress".
Dear Anonymous or 7/10,
Please do consider NOT reading this blog as it is making you a bit tense, no?
Sincerely, Sara
-- A "Real" person who wishes sometimes that she could be Erin
At May 15, 2008 11:34:00 AM,
Theresa said…
we can employ the amish practice of Shunning. If we act like they don't exist they will get bored and go away.
At May 15, 2008 11:36:00 AM,
S. R. said…
I would also like to join the "We Love Erin" Fan Club. I love that this blog is the first thing I read online in the morning and often it keeps me smiling ( or cying from the post about your Dad) all day. I called my Dad after reading the post aobut your Dad!
The fact that you posted a well thought out response to 7/10 only reaffirms my high opinion of you!
Can't wait to read more!
At May 15, 2008 11:37:00 AM,
Susan W. said…
Erin, and commenters, please don't feed the trolls. Is everyone here too young to remember the Star Trek episode in which we learned that evil thrives when you feed it fear and attention? http://www.ericweisstein.com/fun/startrek/WolfInTheFold.html
Your troll has now harvested enough to feed a family of four (trolls) for two weeks!
At May 15, 2008 11:37:00 AM,
Anonymous said…
I love your blog. I went to high school in the early 60s (grad in65) and love seeing your dresses. Reminds me so much of what we wore to school--no jeans allowed in my day! I'll keep checking your site daily and enjoy the dresses you make from all those wonderful patterns you find. I've even bought some patterns even tho I don't have anywhere right now to wear one (I'm retired). Maybe a wedding or something will come up and I'll make one.
I've been sewing since I was 11 and would not have had school clothes if I hadn't sewen them (we were very poor). Wish now I'd have kept all my patterns--even tho they wouldn't fit me now.
Keep up this wonderful blog! Ignore the pissy losers!
Linda, Stanwood WA
At May 15, 2008 11:37:00 AM,
Zazzu said…
Trolls thrive on attention. Any attention.
Erin usually gets nice comments. It's easy for a nasty troll to stand out here.
I actually feel sorry for 7/10 Split. What a joyless, lonely life someone like that must lead.
At May 15, 2008 11:39:00 AM,
Anonymous said…
As a person who actually knows you in real life, the thought that you're not an actual person makes me laff and laff! (Who could come up with a character as interesting as you?) And you're such a shill, with your sewing machine-buying guides and links to vintage dresses on eBay! Yeah, not so much.
xo
Jesse
At May 15, 2008 11:43:00 AM,
Eirlys said…
Erin, I'm really saddened that you have been backed into a corner of such a messy pig-pen.
There's a rule of thumb in mental health services to detect when somebody needs help or intervention; basically, if they're upsetting enough people as a matter of routine in their daily doings, they need help. I sincerely hope that anonymous:7/10 takes this as a wake-up call and finds a sympathetic counsellor and/or medicating doctor. It's just not right to be foisting this behaviour on good, warm-hearted people like Erin and generally jangling the nerves of this "oasis of dress-loving camaraderie" (lovely description, Erin).
You're a fantastic blogger, Erin, and my admiration for you is enormous. You can be consistently relied upon to brighten the day (early afternoon, in my case) with your pithy observations and lightness of touch. Keep it up. I look forward to the return of pretty pictures of whatever the heck you choose to include. I'm never, ever disappointed.
Meanwhile, a bit of tough love is in order for the persistent trolling. The oxygen of attention should perhaps be withheld from here on - can we all promise not to snap up the bait anymore?
At May 15, 2008 11:44:00 AM,
Kay aka dkswife said…
Good gosh, some people really get wound up like a cheap watch sometimes, huh?
I am a lurker who reads your blog regularly.
Kay
At May 15, 2008 11:44:00 AM,
Kay aka dkswife said…
Good gosh, some people really get wound up like a cheap watch sometimes, huh?
I am a lurker who reads your blog regularly.
Kay
At May 15, 2008 12:00:00 PM,
Elizabeth said…
Hi Erin!
I have been reading this blog for about a year, but this is the first time I have posted a comment. Reading your blog is honestly the best part of my day. I get it in my RSS feeds at work and always start my day by reading your blog, because it makes me happy!
Don't spend another minute on this negative person. It's one thing to care about the environment or human rights, but it's another to attack someone for sport. And really, what is she accomplishing? She is not getting her message through to anyone by being to abrasive.
I love your blog, I love the patterns you post and the dresses you make. You are a huge inspiration to be as a beginner sewer.
Keep doing what ya do and know that you obviously have a great group of readers who always got your back!!
At May 15, 2008 12:03:00 PM,
Jean C. said…
You know, there is an old addage that says... "If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all!" Funny that 7/10 split gets their feathers ruffled so easily... if you weren't doing something right/interesting/or /of use to us
Why Does this person keep coming back? It is interesting to me (although I am sorry that your the one that has to endure all the garbage!) that if supposedly you are doing something that is sooo wrong, why do you have so many readers, including 7/10?
Keep up the good work, you know, even if you were not sewing dresses etc... if you were just showing patterns and not sewing... your blog would still be worth reading.
I'm thinking enough said! Jean C.
At May 15, 2008 12:04:00 PM,
crescentaluna said…
Funny, but upon hearing the little "You're a shill!" thing I flashed immediately on this ... which neatly sums up Erin's take on actual shills. And the "You're not a real person" accusation is especially interesting; I've sometimes been amazed about how open Erin is about who she is, what she does, where she is.
I guess one interesting insight I've gained, meditating for five minutes on this, is that the most faithful of us D-a-D readers are fairly literate, word-loving types, people who would read long and deeply before coming to conclusions about who a blogger 'truly' is. For me, the "Secret Lives" series really illuminate something about the heart and soul of this whole blog and its beloved writer {wistful sigh}. Who knows, even 'anonymous' might be touched if she/he slowed down and actually, y'know, READ.
At May 15, 2008 12:05:00 PM,
Anonymous said…
I also have never commented before and ALWAYS read your post in the morning with my coffee. I find it very enriching and inspiring. I am almost ready to attempt sewing again for myself after many, many years. Thanks for what you do.
Eileen
At May 15, 2008 12:05:00 PM,
anthrokeight said…
I like expensive Liberty fabric, this is true. I would spend money on it if I wanted some, also true.
But my appreciation of Liberty is not the reason I loved the "$45.00 Fabric Post" below.
Nope, that post was a much needed insight into the nature of taking risks and learning from mistakes. I've already incorporated "cut the d*mn fabric" into my Stock Of Useful Phrases. I am sure I will continue to use it in the future.
Erin, if you are in fact some kind of Internet Salesbot, I am paying more attention to the things you can't buy rather than the things you're trying to sell.
You're a really lousy shill.
At May 15, 2008 12:14:00 PM,
xstpenguin said…
Personality number 312 checking in to say I love Me, em, I Love Erin, uh I love cardigans? oh dear, I can't seem to keep track of my identity.
The problem with you being an actual real person, is that occasionally you miss a day and there is no Dress for that day and I go into withdrawal - sadly clicking refresh periodically, just in case you are in a different time zone and the post will appear later. And *that* is the only complaint I can make about things here.
Vote Erin for Supreme Ruler of the Universe. :D
At May 15, 2008 12:14:00 PM,
Beka said…
Oh, good grief. Seriously, you're trying to force us to buy stuff? I'm easy, let me tell you, and I've never once felt like I was being compelled to buy something. That is utterly ridiculous. I love this blog and I will continue to reading for a long, long time to come.
BTW, 7/10: price is relative. Three years ago I would have been appalled at the idea of spending $65 for a sweater. Today, I would consider it depending on the company. You see, quality matters. I've spent $60 for a pair of shoes that have lasted me three times as long as the $5 pair of shoes I used to buy from WalMart, and they are still in good condition. That company (Can I name them or will I just be trying to force anyone who reads this comment to go buy from them? Oh, who cares what you think: SKETCHERS) produces quality shoes that are more expensive than most, not as expensive as some, but the quality kicks butt and makes that $60 worth it and then some.
Oh, yeah: you found ONE sweater under $20 on sale. That doesn't prove your point nearly as successfully as you'd like to think it does.
At May 15, 2008 12:16:00 PM,
Cordelia said…
I didn't know you were a lexographer. How cool.
At May 15, 2008 12:16:00 PM,
tea said…
Ooh! I love the pig quote, too. That's a good one I'll have to remember.
Also, it makes me horribly sad that a posting about a sweater should stir up so much controversy. I feel a little sick upon reading about this. So sorry you should have to endure the crazies. I'm glad, though, that it doesn't deter you from continuing to share dress love with us. It's probably obvious, by now, that those of us who get a spark of joy from reading your blog FAR outnumber those who get a stray hair up their hinders.
At May 15, 2008 12:26:00 PM,
Sally said…
Erin, I also love DRESS A DAY - and if I see something that is "not my thing" - like a post on cotton cardigans - guess what? I don't read it!
Remember before blogs when we were all on lists and people loved to "flame". This is the same. And for the same person to come back and continue the arguement - well it ain't worth your time to keep it up.
Relax. I haven't thought you were selling me anything. If anything you indicate when a dress is something you made, or is not.
Let 'em eat pins!
At May 15, 2008 12:33:00 PM,
Nancy (nanflan) said…
Whatever...
Love the blog; I hope you can get back to your primary subject matter soon. Mwah!!!
At May 15, 2008 12:35:00 PM,
Amy G. said…
Well, if I had to be one person (or join a single Person in blog form) I think I would be Erin. Sorry it's not so, 7/10, but what a nice idea!
At May 15, 2008 12:35:00 PM,
Jen - The Alien Spouse said…
As a long time reader I'd say that Erin is clearly a real live person, with thoughts and opinions of her very own; where as 7/10 Split sounds like exactly the sort of name that one would give an automated robot snarker.
(Did I use that semi-colon correctly? I'm terrible at punctuation.)
At May 15, 2008 12:36:00 PM,
Eirlys said…
Let 'em eat pins! Sally, I love that! Boy, will I overuse that phrase...
At May 15, 2008 12:37:00 PM,
jessica said…
Erin,
I love your blog. It cheers me. It makes me laugh. It's well written and interesting and REAL. I hope you never quit. And I love the J Crew sweater!
-Jessica
At May 15, 2008 12:45:00 PM,
Julie The Vintage Goddess said…
I just wish the damn thing came in my size.
Being a big gal I pay way more then I should at times if I find exactly what I am looking for (that would be a cotton and spandex wrap dress WITH A COLLAR and short sleeves...pockets would be nice in a size 30 that I do not have to hem).
People always say go to the TS or discount places and you can find what you want, no problem.
Wrong.
(well I guess you can if you are the right size and don't have strange body issues)
I count on my hand the number of times I have found something that fits and I will actually wear at a TS.
$65 is not too much for an item that one will wear again and again, plus no driving all over town to find it.
At May 15, 2008 12:46:00 PM,
ceciiiii said…
So as I understand it, this all started because some unhappy person "saw this on a television program"? She/he states this as if television only showed the truth or was a credible source of information. Not saying that the economy is not in a shitty place, but even news stations and newspapers are biased in what information they decide to report. Also what I'm getting from this is that he/she is condeming overseas production but is not willing to pay more than $15 on a sweater. Minimum wage in California is $8, say a sweater takes two hours to take. Cheap clothing is so because it is made outside the US. Bring production here and all sweaters will be in the $65 range. I'd be willing to pay that much for a mediocre product made here if it means helping the economy out .
At May 15, 2008 12:48:00 PM,
Anonymous said…
Erin, I love your blog! And the dresses, cardies, shoes, the whole she-bang on Dress A Day. 7/11 is a very bitter and unhappy person. Try not to rise to the bait and she will just find someone else to be nasty to. I bet she spends her time writing nasty comments to many blogs. I hope she gets some therapy. It sounds like she could really use it. From Karen S.
At May 15, 2008 12:53:00 PM,
Survivalwoman said…
no matter what happens in life someone will think you suck and you will think someone else sucks.
Its The Nature of Life.
Ignore it , Reaction is just a way of feeding the falme.
I like you site , It gets Fed to me every morning among many various blogs that i wait for hitting the refresh button in eager anticipiation. Do what you do for you and your happiness and ignore those who make you unhappy.
At May 15, 2008 12:59:00 PM,
Deb said…
7/10 split will never see the broader view it is impossible to get through to this type of person. And for the record the Chadwick's sweater is imported.
Erin your blog is wonderful, I am one that reads daily also. It always brightens my day and I think of it as dessert for work. Can't wait until I have the time to read it each day.
At May 15, 2008 12:59:00 PM,
Shannon said…
Your blog is so wonderful, Erin. I know trolls are inevitable, but I do hope the happy and delighted feedback outweighs the negative by about a hundred times. You deserve that.
At May 15, 2008 1:08:00 PM,
1912 Suffragette said…
I thought it was a very thoughtful post (about the short-sleeved cardigans) because wearing something over a summer dress when in the frigid A/C of most offices is necessary to one's comfort and health. Since I work from home I don't have to think about it much. I have a list of "sewing blogs" that I read regularly and you're at the top! Thank you for your contribution to making the internet a more gracious place to be.
At May 15, 2008 1:13:00 PM,
Kate R said…
Erin-
I have been reading your blog almost since its inception. I don't comment often, but I feel moved to do so now. I think you are a clever, interesting writer who happens to have fashion tastes that resemble my own. You are responsible for many of my interesting forays into the world of cyberspace fashion. I have bookmarked the Costume Institute site, Countless museum collections and purchased several vintage patterns that my dear friend sews up for me. I have a very busy life and do not have time to spent sewing or shopping for vintage clothing. (As I love to do.) But due to your site, I have a small respite in my day to check out vintage, read interesting commentary and remove myself from my daily grind.
You rock-
Regards-
Kate
At May 15, 2008 1:20:00 PM,
Jen ~ MOMSPatterns said…
1. I have had things blogged about here that I never paid a cent for.
2. I pay $25 monthly for the side ad. Thank my lucky stars I got in early and nearly 1/2 my traffic comes from this blog.
3. I look forward to having the opportunity to meet what I HOPE is a real live Erin next month when she's in my area!
4. I find it sad, Erin, that you feel the need to give more attention to the Attention Seeking and felt ANY need to explain yourself to ANYone. Your daily readers know & love you :)
XOX
At May 15, 2008 1:37:00 PM,
Anonymous said…
Tell "the party pooper" to go to "Sniff it".
You write about dresses and your sewing!
After 15 years without putting on a dress or sewing a stitch I'm looking at the "Walkaway Dress", thanks to your blog.
You are a miracle worker.
Sweat shops are an issue in the world. But we would be truly ungrateful if we didn't at least love and appreciate the things that are made.
At May 15, 2008 1:40:00 PM,
Kim said…
De-lurking here to say bless your heart! You sure handled that mess with aplomb! Your blog is lovely, interesting, relevant to sewing, and clearly real! Cheers to you!
At May 15, 2008 1:54:00 PM,
Doris said…
It's like you said, "if you wrestle with a pig..."
I've never once doubted Erin's genuine opinions, her knowledge, her intelligence, or her motives. I make and sell handcrafted items including clothing, and have encountered many, many "anonymous" people who refuse to pay for quality. $65 is a lot of maney for me to spend on a sweater, but I don't doubt that it is worth the quality of the piece.
At May 15, 2008 2:00:00 PM,
sarah said…
I just wanted to add that I love your blog, your voice, and can't even imagine on what grounds anyone could criticize A Dress A Day. They mus